Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520505 --- Comment #14 from Chris Weyl <cweyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2009-09-08 03:34:40 EDT --- (In reply to comment #13) > (In reply to comment #12) > > > You claimed I'd done "actual harm" to Fedora > > No I didn't, please read comment 4 again (I guess that's what you're referring > to). But let's not get caught up with this or other word games. I don't think anyone is playing word games here. I take it you're retracting your claim? > > How about, instead of bashing, we sit down and try to work out how to best do > > this > > I have plenty on my plate so no thanks for now. But on a brief look, > FullyTestablePerl looks like a good idea that would pretty much eliminate my > concerns. And Stepan's suggestion at end of comment 9 (+ some real thought > from the packagers whether to ship the tests) would be an improvement in the > meantime. Good. With perl now shipping /etc/rpm/macros.perl we have a good vehicle for delivery of any helper macros. > > I'd like to see the evidence of any concrete harm done specific to including > > the test suites in %_docdir, but I haven't seen any yet > > The reasons given in comment 8 demonstrate why I think this stuff is harmful. > IMO it makes affected packages worse than they would be without those issues, > which I think qualifies this practice as harmful. You don't agree with it, but > the "evidence" is there, and one (very insignificant) manifestation of it is > this very bug. Dismissing it as handwaving, FUD or nonexistent is a bit > extreme. If there's other "evidence", that is, something "actively harmful", I'd appreciate it if you could point it out, so I could at least own up to it and fix it. > I think it's about time we let this bug rest in peace and continue the > discussion in another more appropriate medium in case someone still has > something to say. Fine by me :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list