On the Fedora devel list, 2 days ago Jhordy M. Caceres Guerra brought up the old thread "Re-Launching the Java Sig" again (https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/NGE3RS4U2LZ2DTLSSAURVDSKDKZM2PV4/). Jhordy would like to contribute to Fedora Java. The offer has so far remained without response, as in so many other cases that I have read over the past months. I would like to take this as an opportunity to discuss Fedora Java reorganization again here on the list. Additionally, we had the standard invitation to the java-maint-sig meeting yesterday, scheduled for === tomorrow, 2021-09-16 15:00 UTC fedora-meeting-2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. === This regular meeting schedule was not used for half a year or so. Maybe we can use it (more or less off-topic) for discussion of further development of Fedora Java. I’ll be lurking around. === Some details and proposals. === Fabio had come up with a plan composed of several steps to reorganize and revitalize the Fedora Java stack. Some of it is realized (e.g. the java-maint-sic), some not (e.g. update of the deprecated java-sig wiki page). The biggest success is that with all the adversities in java packaging we have a stabilized Fedora Java core platform. The next urgent step, in my opinion, is to update and improve information materials and documentation, followed by a community building process based on it. I can offer to do the writing. I have already done that for the (successful) rebooting of the Fedora Server Working Group. But I needed support, information and ideas from the other sig members or people otherwise involved in Fedora Java, especially from the java-maint-sig that keeps the whole thing going. Otherwise, it makes no sense. Some ideas about topics documentation/information material should cover - what provides current java core stack (i.e. what is handled ( and guaranteed) by java-maint-sig) - (very) short description of what exactly are the issues with Fedora java packaging (maven, dependencies, no binary libs) - what are the current plans of java-maint-sig - what other software is available as Fedora package (if there is anything at all outside of java-maint-sig) - how to handle software whose packages have been removed - informal package sources (copr) - how install and configure third party software (general hints related to Fedora's way for Java) - for which tasks we are looking for contributors - how to proceed if you want to add a package or help with packaging Of course, this list is in no way exhaustive or exclusive. Just a first guess. Best Peter _______________________________________________ java-devel mailing list -- java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to java-devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure