Re: Expected OpenJDK packages in Fedora 29

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* Severin Gehwolf:

> On Mon, 2018-12-17 at 13:22 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> What's the expected set of OpenJDK packages in Fedora 29?
>> 
>> I see three version:
>> 
>> java-openjdk-headless-11.0.1.13-8.rolling.fc29.x86_64
>> java-11-openjdk-headless-11.0.1.13-4.fc29.x86_64
>> java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless-1.8.0.191.b12-11.fc29.x86_64
>
> This looks right.
>
>> Surely we do not need two versions of OpenJDK 11?
>
> Package java-openjdk is tracking the latest GA'ed version of OpenJDK.
> Right now that's JDK 11. Coincidentally, this is also an LTS version
> which is packaged elsewhere (java-11-openjdk). java-openjdk will be JDK
> 12 once it's GA in spring 2019. This situation will re-occur once an
> LTS version is also the latest GA'ed JDK.
>
> It's a weird construct, but we don't have good alternatives for a
> rolling release package:
>
> A) JDK 10 is already EOL, JDK 12 isn't GA'ed yet, so not really
> suitable for a stable Fedora release.
> B) Retiring the package, then unretiring it when it's no longer
> C) Virtually providing it isn't possible, without breakages. Not all
> JDK packages are ready for JDK 9+. If java-11-openjdk virtually
> provided java-openjdk-headless it might break apps.

Surely the java-openjdk packages could be empty and just depend on the
java-11-openjdk packages for now?

>> And I think it was possible to install LibreOffice without OpenJDK 8.
>> With the current updates/updates-testing composes, this no longer
>> appears to be possible.  Is this a deliberate change?
>
> Do you know which package drags in OpenJDK 8? IIRC, libreoffice-ure has
> a require on 'libjvm.so()'[1]. The plan is to only provide it for the
> main JDK in Fedora (currently JDK 8). The reason is the same as above.
> Not all projects are ready for JDK 9+ (or 11).

I think the root cause is that javapackages-tools-5.3.0-1.fc29 depends
on java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless.

Thanks,
Florian
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