----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher" <ctubbsii-fedora@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Sudhir Khanger" <ml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "Fedora Java Development List" <java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 6:43:17 AM > Subject: Re: Eclipse Luna on Fedora 21 and JDK 8 requirement > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Sudhir Khanger < ml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Christopher < ctubbsii-fedora@xxxxxxxxxx > > wrote: > > to warrant the pursuit of -target 1.7 in its build > > Would it have caused technical problems to have included both 1.7 or > 1.8 as targets? > > > Either I'm not understanding you, or you're not understanding the problem. > F21 could have built as -target 1.7 and run on the provided Java 8 JVM, but > also could have run under a user-specified Java 7 JVM (assuming there > weren't any bootstrap classpath problems that would have prevented such a > build, which there are... but it may not matter for Eclipse and its > dependencies). I can't imagine there would be any reason to build Eclipse > for both, unless Eclipse itself has some internal restriction that prevents > it from building projects using Java 8, when itself was built with Java 7. > The fact that there isn't a 1.7 JDK to build against properly, to address > the bootstrap classpath problem, is not a technical problem, so much as a > policy that prevented OpenJDK7 from being packaged alongside OpenJDK8 in > F21. Well, it's neither technical nor policy problem - it's resources problem. There is no policy stating that there can be only OpenJDK8. As soon as people join in with the ongoing maintenance of both upstream and downstream OpenJDK 7 the problem would be solved. > > Even if you could build Eclipse targetted for 1.7, I'm not sure there's any > point, except to support running an older JRE that the user manually > downloaded. I'm not sure it should be a goal that Fedora's packages be built > to run on top of VMs that are older than the ones provided... that seems > nonsensical. Developing *for* those older VMs, sure, but not running the > build tools, like Eclipse, on them. It just seems like a completely > pointless endeavor. Well, I think this is perfectly doable now. Install your own Java 7, add it as Installe JRE, target it with your project. Is there something I miss ? Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team > > -- > Christopher L Tubbs II > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii > > > -- > java-devel mailing list > java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/java-devel -- java-devel mailing list java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/java-devel