Re: Shared library paths for native linker

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Well, I can not agree that this is a distro-only  or OpenJDK-only problem.
Noone will benefit if every distro starts to ship it's own pc file. We gain nothing from such approach.
Take a look at e.g. http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/tree/glib-2.0.pc.in - the right place for such file is OpenJDK even if it doesn't install it at all.
Java land suffers from missing integration in so many places and so badly that it still feels like an alien on Linux and nothing will change if both upstream OpenJDK and Fedora maintainers step in and do the needed fixes because every party has do to its job. 
* we need OpenJDK upstream to define canonical pc.in file so we know how to query pkg-config
* we need Fedora OpenJDK package maintainers to properly install a correct pc file for distro wide usage.

If we have both people what is stopping us to not make one more step to make JVM integration suck less?

Alex

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Hughes" <ahughes@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Deepak Bhole" <dbhole@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Petr Pisar" <ppisar@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 6:19:41 PM
> Subject: Re:  Shared library paths for native linker
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > * Deepak Bhole <dbhole@xxxxxxxxxx> [2011-09-27 11:22]:
> > > > * Petr Pisar <ppisar@xxxxxxxxxx> [2011-09-27 11:00]:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have a non-java package (pl) which links to jvm. Build
> > > > > scripts
> > > > > of pl
> > > > > needs to locate directories with libjava.so, libjvm.so etc.
> > > > > and
> > > > > instruct
> > > > > native linker (ld) where to find them (-L option).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Current implementation in the pl.spec is uggly (a lot of
> > > > > ad-hoc
> > > > > hacks for
> > > > > each platform which requires tuning time to time
> > > > > <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740897>).
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I decided to find ultimate way how to obtain path for
> > > > > linker
> > > > > and Java
> > > > > home directory. Unfortunatelly, I did not find any. So I've
> > > > > written
> > > > > one. You can find it as attachment at the afore-mentioned bug
> > > > > report.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Usage is inspired by pkg-config:
> > > > > 
> > > > > $ javac JavaConfig.java
> > > > > $ java JavaConfig --home
> > > > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre
> > > > > $ java JavaConfig --libs-only-L
> > > > > -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/lib/amd64/server
> > > > > -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/lib/amd64
> > > > > -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/../lib/amd64
> > > > > -L/usr/java/packages/lib/amd64 -L/usr/lib64 -L/lib64 -L/lib
> > > > > -L/usr/lib
> > > > > 
> > > > > I can bundle the tool to my `pl' package, but I think it
> > > > > could
> > > > > be
> > > > > helpful for others too. So I'd like to ask Java SIG whether
> > > > > it
> > > > > wants to
> > > > > adopt it (e.g. as a part of JDK).
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Out of curiosity, is there a reason why the OpenJDK RPM on
> > > > Fedora
> > > > cannot
> > > > install .pc files so that pkg-config itself can be used?
> > > > 
> > > > Adding Andrew Hughes to cc:
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Andrew, ping?
> > > 
> > > Deepak
> > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Deepak
> > > 
> > 
> > Not sure why you're asking me.  I don't have anything to do with
> > the
> > RPMs.
> > --
> > Andrew :)
> > 
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> To elucidate, IcedTea doesn't handle installation at present.
>  There's a long-standing
> bug to add this:
> 
> http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=94
> 
> Adding it and the pkg-config feature need to be discussed on the
> appropriate mailing
> list: distro-pkg-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> You're welcome to trial a more immediate change in the RPM itself,
> and use the feedback
> from that to add the feature to IcedTea.
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