I've been running Sun Java on my Fedora systems for years and years now. Having just installed F13, I figured I'd see how the yum induced Java experience is lately. So I blithely yum installed Ant and ran "ant -version" only to discover the classpath is not nice. So I figured I'd google the Fedora Java howto documentation after discovering there is next to nothing in /usr/share/doc/ant-1.7.1 that is Fedora specific. But no such documents exist. Or at least my simple minded queries are not turning up anything along the lines of: "Here's what you want to do to set up a decent Java programming experience in recent Fedora releases (say, f10 on up)" True, there is a fedoraproject.org wiki page on JavaFAQ but that seems very stale (f9 based) and there is a fedoraunity project that has some material on Fedora/Java, but no sites that I would characterize as authoritative or definitive. Is anyone paying attention to this list aware of "good" Java/Fedora documentation? Is there interest (other than mine) in seeing Fedora be used as a first class Java development platform? If there is, in fact, an opportunity to fill this gap, would the fedoraproject.org wiki be the place to put something? Someplace else? Thanks, -pmr -- java-devel mailing list java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/java-devel