Andrew Overholt <overholt@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Hi, > > * Karsten 'quaid' Wade <kwade@xxxxxxxxxx> [2008-06-25 10:54]: >> Andrew, Tom -- where there any insights, lessons, ideas, or other >> outfalls from that work with Lee? > > Well, the process we went through was quite simple, actually: list the > software they were using (in this case it was find all the JARs), determine > where it came from, and see if it was already packaged. Moving applications > onto newer version of libraries so that we're only ever shipping one will > always be a challenge for ISVs since they're often using some version that > they imported into their tree at some point in the past. This is one obvious > difference between ISV packaging and distribution packaging. If we get more > ISVs actually developing _on_ Fedora and more up-to-date dependencies, we may > be able to help bring everyone's dependencies forward. > >> * ISV-specific lessons, tips, etc. ==> target wiki/SIGs/ISV > > I really wish we had video-taped Tom and Lee talking. At the beginning of > the conversation Lee was unaware of the benefits of being a part of the > distribution and was wary of relying on dependencies outside of their direct > control; by the end of the conversation, he was fully in agreement of the > benefits of being a part of the distribution :) Tom: perhaps you could > write up some of the common arguments by ISVs and the Free Software / > distribution POV for each of them? Here's a draft document: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraForISVs I linked to it from the ISV SIG page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/ISV#Resources_for_ISVs Tom -- fedora-devel-java-list mailing list fedora-devel-java-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-java-list