Re: [F8] Does eclipse work for you?

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On Saturday 26 January 2008 02:09:07 pm you wrote:
> On Jan 26, 2008 2:35 PM, Dan Thurman <dant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > F8, Fedora's native Eclipse, v3.3.0
> >
> > I am having a helluva time trying to get eclipse to work.  I had
> > originally used the default eclipse installation when I installed the OS
> > and running it came up at the time. As for updating Eclipse, I simply
> > used Eclipse's software updater. But when I did that, I ran into
> > conflicts especially dealing with Eclipse's 3.3.1 patches for which
> > Fedora's eclipse is v3.3.0. What a nightmare.
>
> I wonder if its possible to fire a pop-up here that warns about the
> dangers of using the eclipse update system on core packages. Two

First, thanks for responding.

Dunno if a proposed popup is a big deal...  I mean if one wants to make a 
conscious  decision to stay with Fedora's implementation or to go it 
non-natively, that is a decision one must make for themselves.

> different packaging systems can cause loads of problems as you have
> found out. I am guessing you did this update as root as it should not
> have been able to 'change' your system files otherwise. If you didn't
> do this as root, then my guess would be that its executing stuff from
> your home directory still.

Sticking with Fedora's implementation of Eclipse (v3.3.0), when you use pup or 
simply Add/Remove Software, you are asked to enter the root password so that 
the installation can proceed.  From what I can tell the Eclipse stuff is 
installed in /usr/share/eclipse, /usr/lib/eclipse, and god knows where else.  

But this is for the BASIC packages from fedora and has nothing to do with 
Eclipse's updater at this point.  Andrew told me that after that point, 
should you decide to use Eclipse's updater/installer - it gets installed in 
the user's home directory, somewhere in ~/.eclipse.  I complained that 
Eclipse updater wants to install stuff in /usr/share/eclipse which is why it 
was bombing for me.  I could not figure it out. Andrew says it does not 
happen for him, so why me?  Bummer - this issue is left hanging in the wind.
This is a different issue for now.  I simply want to restore the BASIC Fedora 
eclipse so that I can get started.

I am trying to stay with Fedora's version and not go it non-natively though I 
have done it for fun and it worked well, but that is besides the point.  With 
F8, have not tried to mix and mash things consciously - I simply want the 
darn eclipse to work under Fedora but with all the amenities.

> I would try the following to locate your issues:
Now we are getting somewhere...

> 1) Lets look for bad file packages:
> /etc/cron.daily/prelink   # clean up prelinking for rpm -Va
Done.

> rpm -Va &> /tmp/long_list # make a long list of all files that are changed.
Done.

> egrep '^..5|missing' /tmp/long_list | grep -v ' c ' | awk '{print
> $NF}' | xargs rpm -qf | sort | uniq
> This should give you a list of packages that you will need to
> reinstall or check.

+ egrep '^..5|missing' /tmp/long_list | grep -v ' c ' | awk '{print $NF}' | 
xargs rpm -qf | sort | uniq
===========================================
a2ps-4.13b-69.fc8
amsn-0.97-1.fc8
docbook-simple-1.1-1.02.fc8
docbook-slides-3.4.0-1.02.fc8
eclipse-ecj-3.3.0-30.fc8
emacs-common-22.1-8.fc8
erlang-R12B-0.1.fc8
gdm-2.20.2-2.fc8
gnash-plugin-0.8.1-6.fc8.1
icu4j-eclipse-3.6.1-1jpp.3.fc8
kernel-2.6.23.9-85.fc8
libswt3-gtk2-3.3.0-30.fc8
monodevelop-0.13.1-1.fc7
msttcorefonts-2.0-1
php-pear-1.6.2-2.fc8
python-2.5.1-15.fc8
R-2.6.1-1.fc8
tetex-3.0-44.3.fc8
tetex-latex-3.0-44.3.fc8
tomcat5-jasper-eclipse-5.5.25-1jpp.1.fc8
xorg-x11-xdm-1.1.6-2.fc8
===========================================

Well, at least it is not over 100 files, I am ok with it, haha.  I am not sure 
what to do with the above files,  so what is one to do with it?  It is odd to 
me that: kernel-2.6.23.9-85.fc8 appears?  This is a recent pup update as of 
yesterday - and it installed the new kernel: v2.6.23.14-107 as well as 
eclipse and a raft of other update files.

At this point, I see TWO eclipse files:
=====================
eclipse-ecj-3.3.0-30.fc8
icu4j-eclipse-3.6.1-1jpp.3.fc8
=====================

It is odd that I have never seen: icu4j-eclipse-3.6.1-1jpp.3.fc8 as part of 
the pup nor pm.  I can try to install this one and see what happens?

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