Hi Karsten, The release notes for java used to have a link to a page giving step-by-step instructions on installing proprietary java implementations with the JPackage wrappers. I'm not sure when it went away, but it's a problem. You don't have to google very long to find lots of FC5 installation notes telling people to just go ahead and install Sun's java as-is. These notes are full of bad advice (like, telling people to disable key SELinux functionality). Can we add that reference back in? AG