Folks, I am at an impasse in deciding if it is worth taking the time to get a Java development environment setup on FC5 for the simple reason that FC5 recommends using their NATIVE ports instead of using the "normal" download apps such as Sun's software, Eclipse's software and so on. The confusion lies in not knowing what course of action to take coupled with the FC5 caveat that by not using the FC native ports and properly installing Java applications may break your work on Java. This caveat alone stops me from considering FC5 as a serious contender for a Java development platform. On top of all of this, FC5's Java porting time-line plans states that there are some serious work needed to get it all working right (Swing/AWT, others?) so it seems to me that FC5 is just not ready for a serious Java programming development environment and who knows when and if it will be ready? Can anyone give me some pointers on how to get a serious Java development environment setup going? I want to have full flexibility to download and install Eclipse tools and applications without being unencumbered with Fedora's port version preventing such operations, for example if I need to get RCP, WSP, Swing, AWT, and the zillions of other things that are rapidly being released by the Eclipse community. BTW: I have already visited the Fedora Java Wiki site (http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/JavaFAQ) and (http://www.jpackage.org/) but it is not "HOW TO" setup your Java development environment. So... how can I proceed? Totally confused, Dan