Couldn't make the Cloud meeting but just skimmed the log; cross-posting to server@ list. How about combine Cloud and Server WGs into a new WG with three new sub groups: hardware, cloud, atomic? That way you get the benefit of one WG working on the big picture stuff that enables integration among the outputs. And you get collaboration that isn't possible by just cross posting emails on two lists. Curation of the outputs is enhanced so they're optimal when the products are used together, while not being exclusive to each other. The differences are minor tweaks in terms of payload, but e.g. cloud-init is not something most people in the Server WG probably know much about. So most of Cloud + Server overlaps with really vertical knowledge base needed to do the small tweaks that cause substantial product differentiation. On the issue of membership, anyone unavailable in the next 30 days should be dropped. There will be another time for their participation when they're available. I'd look into making it easy to rotate out WG members to avoid long periods of inactivity which inhibits others' ability to get stuff done, and avoid burn out when they've been on the WG too long. Maybe some WG seats should be ~18 months, and twice as many of those would be 1 release cycle. i.e. 1/3 of the seats are longer term, and 2/3 are short term. There's sufficient stability in FESCo to make frequent WG turnover a plus. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list -- cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to cloud-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx