On 07/10/2015 08:52 AM, Major Hayden wrote: > On 07/10/2015 07:28 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> OK. So your answer to my immediate question is "neutral base that >> people have to customize". Fair enough. Now, why would someone >> wish to choose a Fedora cloud image over Ubuntu or CoreOS or any of >> the other "minimal base that you have to customize" images? > > It depends on the use case (which seems like a recursive statement in > this thread). ;) > > Our customers (disclaimer: I work for Rackspace) usually choose the > operating system for cloud instances that they're most familiar with > or the ones that mesh will with their organization's strategy. > Ubuntu seems to be a popular choice due to the million howto's laying > around for installing services on Ubuntu. > > When it comes to the ultra-minimal OS choices largely intended for > container platforms, like CoreOS, Atomic, or RancherOS, the customer > usually has an idea of how they're planning to integrate/automate > those operating systems on multiple instances. > > Whenever I've spoken with customers about what they want from an OS > in a virtual machine, they want it to contain a small package set > that lets them run their automation on top of it (i.e. Ansible, Chef, > Puppet). Removing Python from that image would be a serious > curveball since most people expect to have Python available on any > system running yum/dnf. Well, it kind of has to be available until we make yum/dnf not need Python anymore, which sounds like *loads* of work. Personally, I like (and use) the cloud image for two use cases. 1) Openstack development with local virtualization. Having a small-footprint image that has cloud-init is awesome for testing coordination or multinode installations of databases/services. 2) Cloud infrastructure (AWS/Rackspace) a) an OS I'm familiar with b) has great docs/community c) is pretty low-resource/cheap to run d) has up-to-date stuff e) automation I've written for RHEL-derivatives "just works" f) works everywhere I want -- Ryan Brown / Software Engineer, Openstack / Red Hat, Inc. _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
