On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Michael P. McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@xxxxxxxxx> >> Seriously, though, my sense after struggling with the existing Atomic >> documentation is that it is a tool only for a very sophisticated class >> of developer / operations people. So I'd take a look at the marketing >> materials for RHEL's Atomic and talk about how one can use the Fedora >> Atomic to do similar things. >> > > It's not intended to be though I understand why you'd get that impression. > Usability is something that could use some work. It's not so much usability, it's a matter of the intended audience. Most people do *not* have Google-scale or OpenShift-Online / OpenShift-Enterprise-scale problems, and that's my impression of what the "sweet spot" is for Atomic / Kubernetes. If you're developing for that kind of operation, Atomic / Kubernetes have features / benefits / advantages compared to other PaaS offerings, as I'm sure the RHEL marketing team can show. I'm doing what I'm doing (Atomic under Client Hyper-V on a laptop) because I want to reduce the number of vendors down to Red Hat / Fedora and Microsoft. ;-) While we're on the subject of talking points for "cloud", a big part of that is 'fedora-dockerfiles'. That's a lot more interesting to smaller-scale users like me, IMHO. See https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/84. For the curious, this is what I'm building - https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/znmeb/osjourno-devel/. -- OSJourno: Robust Power Tools for Digital Journalists http://www.znmeb.mobi/stories/osjourno-robust-power-tools-for-digital-journalists Remember, if you're traveling to Bactria, Hump Day is Tuesday and Thursday. _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct