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1. Backup solution (Ali AlipourR)
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3. Final release announcement coordination (Jaroslav Reznik)
4. Re: Final release announcement coordination (Joe Brockmeier)
5. Re: Final release announcement coordination (Paul W. Frields)
6. Re: Final release announcement coordination (Joe Brockmeier)
7. Need help in testing the RC2 cloud images (Kushal Das)
8. Re: Need help in testing the RC2 cloud images (Colin Walters)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 16:13:19 +0330
From: Ali AlipourR <alipoor90@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
fa-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Backup solution
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Hi
I'm new to Linux and unix-like systems, I need some advice on backup
solution for file level and block level backups
for file-level backups I found fsarchiver, dar, tar and for
file-system-level fsarchiver, clonezilla/partclone and dd appropriate
based on my requirements
(data integrity and confidentiality, mount and single-file-restoration
capabilities, btrfs and GPT support, ACL/Selinux preservation, xz
compression)
Advantage of tar and dd is that they are available every where but I'm
mostly concerned about file integrity with tar
and dd copies all unused blocks of file system too (fsarchiver or
clonezilla/partclone will only copy file-system + MBR)
I need some advice on Backup solutions, what is your personal methods
and solutions?
Any advice would be most welcome
Thanks
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 08:15:39 -0500
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Backup solution
Message-ID: <20141202131539.GA19727@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 04:13:19PM +0330, Ali AlipourR wrote:
> I'm new to Linux and unix-like systems, I need some advice on backup
> solution for file level and block level backups
Hi Ali. Please don't cross-post to all of these lists for user
questions. The server, cloud, and desktop sig mailing lists are primarily for
development of Fedora in those areas. I'm going to remove those from
the list and reply just on the users list, which is an appropriate
place for this.
--
Matthew Miller
<mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Fedora Project Leader
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:26:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Final release announcement coordination
Message-ID:
<1588291917.12099250.1417534009102.JavaMail.zimbra@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi all!
As we're getting to pretty solid RC, it's again time for release
announcement. Readiness meeting is on Thursday, would be nice to
have a draft ready for review and final version next Monday, so
text formatted and magazine versions can be prepared in advance.
Workstation seems to be pretty covered, do we have any additions
to Server and Cloud? The other thing is to get rid of all Beta
strings.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Final_release_announcement
Thanks Joe for starting it and Paul for Workstation bit so
far! We had the best Alpha/Beta announcements so far, let's
continue with this high bar :).
Jaroslav
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 10:37:31 -0600
From: Joe Brockmeier <jzb@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Fedora
Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Final release announcement coordination
Message-ID: <547DEACB.2000802@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On 12/02/2014 09:26 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Thanks Joe for starting it and Paul for Workstation bit so
> far! We had the best Alpha/Beta announcements so far, let's
> continue with this high bar :).
I'll be poking at this tonight. Others are welcome, of course, but I'll
make sure it's in shape for Thursday and we should only need minor
tweaks for Monday.
Thanks!
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst
jzb@xxxxxxxxxx | http://community.redhat.com/
Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 11:49:03 -0500
From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Fedora Marketing team
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On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 10:26:49AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Hi all!
> As we're getting to pretty solid RC, it's again time for release
> announcement. Readiness meeting is on Thursday, would be nice to
> have a draft ready for review and final version next Monday, so
> text formatted and magazine versions can be prepared in advance.
>
> Workstation seems to be pretty covered, do we have any additions
> to Server and Cloud? The other thing is to get rid of all Beta
> strings.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Final_release_announcement
>
> Thanks Joe for starting it and Paul for Workstation bit so
> far! We had the best Alpha/Beta announcements so far, let's
> continue with this high bar :).
As you guys are crafting improved notes, for better consistency, it
would be great to write in present tense about the release.
INCONSISTENT: "Fedora 21 Foobar will include special flavor crystals
that defy gravity and help you fly like Superman."
CONSISTENT: "Fedora 21 Foobar includes special flavor crystals that
defy gravity and help you fly like Superman."
HTH!
--
Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/
gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:00:17 -0600
From: Joe Brockmeier <jzb@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Fedora Marketing team
<marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Final release announcement coordination
Message-ID: <547DF021.1020801@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On 12/02/2014 10:49 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> As you guys are crafting improved notes, for better consistency, it
> would be great to write in present tense about the release.
>
> INCONSISTENT: "Fedora 21 Foobar will include special flavor crystals
> that defy gravity and help you fly like Superman."
>
> CONSISTENT: "Fedora 21 Foobar includes special flavor crystals that
> defy gravity and help you fly like Superman."
Be sure to use passive voice too. Paul likes that.[1]
Best,
jzb
[1] May not be entirely true. Consult your attorney. Offer not valid in
Utah.
--
Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst
jzb@xxxxxxxxxx | http://community.redhat.com/
Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 02:20:52 +0530
From: Kushal Das <kushaldas@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Need help in testing the RC2 cloud images
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Hi everyone,
We have the RC2 cloud images ready [1]. You can help us by testing the
images following [2].
Feel free to reply back in this list if you have any questions.
[1] http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/21_RC2/Cloud/Images/
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Final_RC2_Summary#Cloud
Kushal
--
Fedora Cloud Engineer
CPython Core Developer
Director Python Software Foundation
http://kushaldas.in
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:48:11 -0500
From: Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: dgilmore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Need help in testing the RC2 cloud images
Message-ID:
<1417560491.2541027.198046277.67127DD3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014, at 03:50 PM, Kushal Das wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We have the RC2 cloud images ready [1]. You can help us by testing the
> images following [2].
It looks to me like the Atomic tree content is lagging significantly:
# atomic status
TIMESTAMP (UTC) ID OSNAME REFSPEC
* 2014-12-01 10:18:48 1ae9d436cb fedora-atomic fedora-atomic:fedora-atomic/f21/x86_64/docker-host
# rpm -q docker-io
docker-io-1.2.0-5.fc21.x86_64
#
Yet:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-13528/docker-io-1.3.0-1.fc21?_csrf_token=befd6ca28d6872662d1aa86fe03d06ae478fa7dd
went stable on 2014-11-01 as far as I can tell.
The repo at http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/atomic/21/ has a slightly older no-op commit, so I assume this is an issue on the compose server side.
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1. Backup solution (Ali AlipourR)
2. Re: Backup solution (Matthew Miller)
3. Final release announcement coordination (Jaroslav Reznik)
4. Re: Final release announcement coordination (Joe Brockmeier)
5. Re: Final release announcement coordination (Paul W. Frields)
6. Re: Final release announcement coordination (Joe Brockmeier)
7. Need help in testing the RC2 cloud images (Kushal Das)
8. Re: Need help in testing the RC2 cloud images (Colin Walters)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 16:13:19 +0330
From: Ali AlipourR <alipoor90@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
fa-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Backup solution
Message-ID:
<CABvhJLjbYMevJ0CdncCx-1-t8=cDAsN4KBPmVHcGw+1zGpi_7A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi
I'm new to Linux and unix-like systems, I need some advice on backup
solution for file level and block level backups
for file-level backups I found fsarchiver, dar, tar and for
file-system-level fsarchiver, clonezilla/partclone and dd appropriate
based on my requirements
(data integrity and confidentiality, mount and single-file-restoration
capabilities, btrfs and GPT support, ACL/Selinux preservation, xz
compression)
Advantage of tar and dd is that they are available every where but I'm
mostly concerned about file integrity with tar
and dd copies all unused blocks of file system too (fsarchiver or
clonezilla/partclone will only copy file-system + MBR)
I need some advice on Backup solutions, what is your personal methods
and solutions?
Any advice would be most welcome
Thanks
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 08:15:39 -0500
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Backup solution
Message-ID: <20141202131539.GA19727@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 04:13:19PM +0330, Ali AlipourR wrote:
> I'm new to Linux and unix-like systems, I need some advice on backup
> solution for file level and block level backups
Hi Ali. Please don't cross-post to all of these lists for user
questions. The server, cloud, and desktop sig mailing lists are primarily for
development of Fedora in those areas. I'm going to remove those from
the list and reply just on the users list, which is an appropriate
place for this.
--
Matthew Miller
<mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Fedora Project Leader
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:26:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Final release announcement coordination
Message-ID:
<1588291917.12099250.1417534009102.JavaMail.zimbra@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi all!
As we're getting to pretty solid RC, it's again time for release
announcement. Readiness meeting is on Thursday, would be nice to
have a draft ready for review and final version next Monday, so
text formatted and magazine versions can be prepared in advance.
Workstation seems to be pretty covered, do we have any additions
to Server and Cloud? The other thing is to get rid of all Beta
strings.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Final_release_announcement
Thanks Joe for starting it and Paul for Workstation bit so
far! We had the best Alpha/Beta announcements so far, let's
continue with this high bar :).
Jaroslav
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 10:37:31 -0600
From: Joe Brockmeier <jzb@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Fedora
Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Final release announcement coordination
Message-ID: <547DEACB.2000802@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On 12/02/2014 09:26 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Thanks Joe for starting it and Paul for Workstation bit so
> far! We had the best Alpha/Beta announcements so far, let's
> continue with this high bar :).
I'll be poking at this tonight. Others are welcome, of course, but I'll
make sure it's in shape for Thursday and we should only need minor
tweaks for Monday.
Thanks!
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst
jzb@xxxxxxxxxx | http://community.redhat.com/
Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 11:49:03 -0500
From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Fedora Marketing team
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On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 10:26:49AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Hi all!
> As we're getting to pretty solid RC, it's again time for release
> announcement. Readiness meeting is on Thursday, would be nice to
> have a draft ready for review and final version next Monday, so
> text formatted and magazine versions can be prepared in advance.
>
> Workstation seems to be pretty covered, do we have any additions
> to Server and Cloud? The other thing is to get rid of all Beta
> strings.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Final_release_announcement
>
> Thanks Joe for starting it and Paul for Workstation bit so
> far! We had the best Alpha/Beta announcements so far, let's
> continue with this high bar :).
As you guys are crafting improved notes, for better consistency, it
would be great to write in present tense about the release.
INCONSISTENT: "Fedora 21 Foobar will include special flavor crystals
that defy gravity and help you fly like Superman."
CONSISTENT: "Fedora 21 Foobar includes special flavor crystals that
defy gravity and help you fly like Superman."
HTH!
--
Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/
gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:00:17 -0600
From: Joe Brockmeier <jzb@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Fedora Marketing team
<marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, server@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Final release announcement coordination
Message-ID: <547DF021.1020801@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On 12/02/2014 10:49 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> As you guys are crafting improved notes, for better consistency, it
> would be great to write in present tense about the release.
>
> INCONSISTENT: "Fedora 21 Foobar will include special flavor crystals
> that defy gravity and help you fly like Superman."
>
> CONSISTENT: "Fedora 21 Foobar includes special flavor crystals that
> defy gravity and help you fly like Superman."
Be sure to use passive voice too. Paul likes that.[1]
Best,
jzb
[1] May not be entirely true. Consult your attorney. Offer not valid in
Utah.
--
Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst
jzb@xxxxxxxxxx | http://community.redhat.com/
Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 02:20:52 +0530
From: Kushal Das <kushaldas@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Need help in testing the RC2 cloud images
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Hi everyone,
We have the RC2 cloud images ready [1]. You can help us by testing the
images following [2].
Feel free to reply back in this list if you have any questions.
[1] http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/21_RC2/Cloud/Images/
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Final_RC2_Summary#Cloud
Kushal
--
Fedora Cloud Engineer
CPython Core Developer
Director Python Software Foundation
http://kushaldas.in
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:48:11 -0500
From: Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: dgilmore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Need help in testing the RC2 cloud images
Message-ID:
<1417560491.2541027.198046277.67127DD3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014, at 03:50 PM, Kushal Das wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We have the RC2 cloud images ready [1]. You can help us by testing the
> images following [2].
It looks to me like the Atomic tree content is lagging significantly:
# atomic status
TIMESTAMP (UTC) ID OSNAME REFSPEC
* 2014-12-01 10:18:48 1ae9d436cb fedora-atomic fedora-atomic:fedora-atomic/f21/x86_64/docker-host
# rpm -q docker-io
docker-io-1.2.0-5.fc21.x86_64
#
Yet:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-13528/docker-io-1.3.0-1.fc21?_csrf_token=befd6ca28d6872662d1aa86fe03d06ae478fa7dd
went stable on 2014-11-01 as far as I can tell.
The repo at http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/atomic/21/ has a slightly older no-op commit, so I assume this is an issue on the compose server side.
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