On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 07:46:11PM -0700, Steven Dake wrote: > I think what is needed is two things a) a general purpose guest > image b) a tidy host image. We don't want to threaten our > guest-image by making it non-general purpose. The host-image can be I think some key context may have been lost here, causing some degree of general panic. The *primary* Fedora Cloud image will be, and I think always will be, flexible and general purpose. We're additionally going to make several more tailored images for specific purposes, and I was proposing both rpm-ostree and min-metadata-service for one of those, an image made specifically for Docker. From there, I wanted to at least consider whether min-metadata-service should be the standard and cloud-init an expanded case. The problem with cloud-init isn't just bloat (although there is a lot of that). The problem is that we haven't really done the work to make it really integrate nicely with Fedora. (With no disrespect to Garrett -- it was a lot of hard work to get it running to the largely-functional degree that it is at now.) So in thinking about it, I wondered if it might be better overall to build min-metadata-service up to the level of functionality we need rather than to try and reforge cloud-init. It may very well be that Heat is a showstopper in that line of thinking. But in that case, I'd _really_ like to see an effort around really making cloud-init _ours_. -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct