On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Garrett Holmstrom <gholms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2013-10-17 9:15, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:09:39AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: >>> 1) You get a complaint that delta RPM isn't enabled when installing >>> packages. Not a major problem, but talking to Matthew we wondered >>> whether we should include delta RPM by default or suppress the warning. >> >> In the past, I've found deltarpm to actually be slower when bandwidth is >> plentiful. The package itself is small, so I'll do some tests here. > > When I did some testing around this on F17 I found that deltarpm not > only increased update time by a non-trivial amount, but also generated > extra I/O. It would be interesting to see how it behaves nowadays. > >>> 2) Firewall on by default is not a good thing. It took me a minute to >>> realize *why* I couldn't hit the default Apache page after I'd fixed the >> >> Yes, as mentioned, this is a frequent complaint. In the past the majority >> opinion was that a basic packet filter was the best choice, but given the >> constant feedback I get to the contrary, I'm.... inclined to revisit. Crazy idea: disable the Firewall by default but allow users to enable it through cloud-init (i.e. user-data)? Just in case there are people who prefer the instance's firewall over security groups and open the latter up a lot / completely. Probably a stupid thought, but I thought I'd share it for the lulz. >> Especially as we make the cloud image a) more visibile and b) more >> differentiated, I think this makes a lot of sense. > > Indeed. This sounds like a differentiator for the "server" and "cloud" > products you proposed. 8^) > > -- > Garrett Holmstrom > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct