On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Garrett Holmstrom <gholms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2012-12-16 10:21, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 06:02:01PM -0800, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: >>>> >>>> What if we did security updates only, by default? (Right now, yum-cron >>>> doesn't support this, so it'd be a F19 feature.) >>> >>> I'd be okay with this (or even an all-kinds-of-updates version) if and >>> only if it becomes the default for the whole distribution. A cloud >>> image is even less well-suited to automatic updates than a desktop or >>> server, and if we can't justify it for those cases, it definitely >>> doesn't belong here either. >> >> >> Well, with the desktop, there's theoretically someone who will see >> GUI-based >> "updates available" notifications and apply them. I'm happy to make the >> case >> for security updates for the whole distro, though. (For F19+.) > > > Sure, but a cloud instance isn't a desktop. It isn't really even a virtual > server. Cloud instances are disposable -- you service them by replacing > them, not by updating or changing them. This is different from the other > kinds of systems that the distribution targets, and automatically updating > instances breaks that model. > > Simply put, if we're building a cloud image then I would like to see that > image's default behavior match the way cloud applications generally work. > Since a Fedora image should still be Fedora, I can certainly live with > automatic updates if the rest of the community disagrees with me, but when > we target a new platform like the cloud I believe we ought to encourage > habits that are appropriate for it rather than encouraging old workflows > that can make managing stuff in the cloud more difficult. +1 Well said. > Those are my two cents, anyway. > > -- > Garrett Holmstrom > > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud
