-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:49:49 -0500 David Nalley <david@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis@xxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > Wanted to get a discussion started, there has been a few requests > > lately for our ec2 images to be made available for general > > consumption. either for use in a different cloud provider to ec2, > > or for use at home with kvm or private cloud. often the requestors > > reference http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/release/ im > > all for making fedora easier to consume. I made a qcow2 format > > image for f17 that came in at 610M, i also tarred and xz compressed > > the f16 ec2 raw disk and that came in at 114M the raw disk images > > are 10G > > > > so the main question here is whats the best way to make them > > available that can easily be consumed by people. > > > > Dennis > > > Hi Dennis: > > So qcow2 works well for KVM - but perhaps providing just a raw image > and allowing folks to use qemu-img or whatever suits their fancy to > work. Of course, if we really want to do all of the work, we should > build raw, qcow2, vmdk, and vhd in addition to the EC2 AMIs. > > And to your main question - why wouldn't they be downloadable from > the mirrors? i guess i didnt not make myself totally clear, yes it would go on the mirrors. but what format should be presented to the user? a tar xz compressed raw image, a qcow2 image with compression (we need to teach appliance-tools and koji to do this), some other format not though of yet. My main question is not at how to deliver it to the users but what to deliver. We would make images for Alpha, Beta, and GA. there would be no updates. so you would need to yum update them after you boot. Im still not convinced that delivering images in this way really is the best thing, some pitfalls i see, they dont run firstboot so you have no way to get in. you need to boot to run level 1 and add a user or set a password for root. or setup something so that cloud-init will get a key in place for the ec2-user. I really think that teaching people to do a kickstart based install is simpler, and allows the users to setup some things for their environment. But as its a requested thing, if people find it really useful then we should try to accomodate them and make the experience as painless as possible. Dennis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk85S/oACgkQkSxm47BaWfdgWACfRMn7Z7V3o6M9DfZyZbTIhq97 Xq8AoIuIej47813Tf6uWD8J6/gCzvEmX =5bJl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud