On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 01:42:28PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Hey all, > > Wanted to get a discussion started, there has been a few requests > lately for our ec2 images to be made available for general consumption. > either for use in a different cloud provider to ec2, or for use at home > with kvm or private cloud. often the requestors reference > http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/release/ im all for making > fedora easier to consume. I made a qcow2 format image for f17 that came > in at 610M, i also tarred and xz compressed the f16 ec2 raw disk and > that came in at 114M the raw disk images are 10G Based on the size differential there between qcow2 + xz raw format, I'm guessing you didn't turn on QCow2 compression ? I don't think QCow2 would get near xz size, but I think it should hve done better than 610 MB. > so the main question here is whats the best way to make them available > that can easily be consumed by people. I think it is helpful to enumerate the different possible formats and what their benefits / users are - AMIs - Only usable via EC2, no download costs for EC2 users. - QCow2 - Built-in compression, so immediately useable on download. Useful for KVM in virt-manager/etc, and KVM OpenStack. - Raw - Needs external compression & decompress post download. Needs to be inside a tar too, to preserve raw sparseness. Useful for any virtualization platform, in particular for LXC in Fedora. - ZIP/Tgz - Just a plain archive of all the individual files. Useful for populating filesystem trees. Useful for LXC trees in particular. Or for creating new custom images Currently Ubuntu provide - AMIs - Zip/Tgz - QCow2 (From 11.04 onwards) Assuming we are talking 100-200 MB per image x 2 architectures, to provide all the formats I describe above would come in at 600 - 1200 MB. Compared to the size of all the RPMs in 1 Fedora release, this seems pretty small and insignificant. So IMHO we could afford to provide all the formats I describe above. Regards, Daniel -- |: http://berrange.com -o- http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :| _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud