On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Max Spevack <mspevack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Tim Flink wrote: > > > How long do we want to wait for the koji produced AMIs? I thought > > that there was talk of just using the BG AMIs for F15 and the koji > > produced AMIs should be ready for F16. > > > > I ask because QA would like to get the F15 EC2 test day done before > > the F16 test days start picking up. We would like to get the > > announcement (with AMI ids) out by 8/1 and have the test day done > > by 8/4. > > > > Is this going to be possible? If it isn't, how long do we want to > > wait before giving up on the idea of a F15 EC2 test day and just > > start with F16? > > According to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule the Alpha of F16 > is due out on Aug 16. I agree that it would be useful to do F15 > testing in advance of that, but that once F16 Alpha is out, that > should probably be the first priority, IMHO. The only argument I can think of for keeping with F15 is that we're still trying to figure all this out. It might be useful to use F15 as a trial run for F16 but after a point, I agree that the usefulness is limited. > Here's some factors to consider: > > Do we have a generalized AMI test plan that is applicable for both > F15 and F16? If so, where is it and do we have any history of > previous AMIs that have been run through that test plan and how > things went? AFAIK, we're figuring this out as we go. Athmane put some test cases together for the EC2 test day [1] but to the best of my knowledge, there is nothing official like the the installation test plan [2]. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-07-19_Cloud_SIG_Fedora_EC2 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test > Do we have any official QA resources from the Fedora QA group, or is > the QA that we do entirely on volunteer time? Like James said, it's all volunteer right now. So far, at least Athmane and I are interested in the test side of things, though. > If we find bugs, how much developer bandwidth is available for the > fixing of them, and what do we predict the release cycle of AMIs > can/will be throughout the F16 cycle? Just because we have an Alpha, > Beta, RC, Gold of F16 doesn't mean we can only build an F16 AMI 4 > times. > > We need an F16 AMI QA schedule. We need to know if that schedule > includes any guaranteed QA/rel-eng/developer resource time. I think this is a little more difficult since we're still trying to figure the process out. In theory, once the rel-eng EBS issues are figured out, we shouldn't need to do much extra for EC2. Hopefully, we wouldn't need more than a test day and some people running through test cases. How detailed of a schedule did you have in mind? I don't think that it would hurt to set some target dates. Tim
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