So we didn't really get quorum for a "real" meeting, but had an informal chat between dhuff, jforbes, and myself on #fedora-cloud. The upshot: the image problems we experienced with both boxgrinder and appliance-tools was *not* Amazon-related, because the images would not boot even on a local host. It's been determined that there are problems with configuration of both selinux and fstab. dhuff will tweak the ks files and run through appliance-tools again. If it works, it should work on boxgrinder. dhuff will get an image to jforbes to test tomorrow. If it doesn't work, we should probably dig in on-list and not wait until next week's meeting. A week is too much latency for these issues, I think. --g -- Educational materials should be high-quality, collaborative, and free. Visit http://opensource.com/education and join the conversation.