On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I agree with most of the above but I don't really see that this, AOS or > a > > > minimal (minimum?) install should be any different, and even the Amazon > > > image should only add EC2 stuff on top of that so should be able to > include > > > this .ks and add a few pacakges and what ever scripting is needed for > the > > > ec2 images. > > > > The problem with the whole AOS/jeos/minimal OS idea is that it's a > > race to the bottom. There's this whole sub-culture of "let's see just > > how tiny we can make it because *clearly* it's easier to add things > > than remove them" when the end result of that is just a kernel and a > > shell. > > > > I don't know, I just don't find that interesting or useful[1]. I'd > > rather actually have utilities and the things I'd expect to find on a > > Fedora system and not have to play games downloading packages for ages > > and paying the bandwidth charges to do so as well. > > > > I'm kind of with you on that. I don't think the smallest / tiniest > footprint is as important as a known starting point. The funny thing is > that anything beyond that is more subjective. The example I'd give is > what editor to include, vim/emacs or joe. Definately pico ..... just joking! I agree with that you don't want it too small. It needs to be usable. But I also don't see the point in installing say a 'http' service where it could easily be used as a db node or whatever. All the other base utils for IP, networking, editing, package mangement, NAS drives etc should be there but someone wanting to use it as a DB server shouldn't have to remove something. Once that bit is worked out the only difference between the base 'virtual server' image and say that of a EC2 image should be the tools that EC2 need. Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/attachments/20100301/54846a62/attachment.html