Fedora Astronomy SIG Meeting 28-12-2007 ======================================= Agenda ====== - Introductions of members and short introduction of the project itself. (Prepare few lines of text to introduce yourself). - Packages. Who can help? - Should we use a specific artwork for the spin? Or only a wallpaper? - Scheduling the spin building - Free discussion, mind storming Next meeting ============ Friday, January 11, 2008 at 14:00:00 UTC Meeting log =========== 14:41 marek hey, who's around? 14:42 Telimektar Michael Ughetto 14:42 * marek Marek Mahut 14:42 marek we will wait 5 minutes for others 14:42 marek if anyone comes :) 14:42 Telimektar ok 14:46 marek anyone from Fedora Astronomy project except Telimektar around? 14:47 sergiopr > [n=sergiopr@xxxxxxxxxxxx] joins #fedora-meeting 14:47 marek ah sergiopr :) 14:47 marek welcome 14:47 sergiopr thanks 14:47 marek let me introduce myself 14:48 marek My name is Marek Mahut and I'm working as sysadmin in one big software company. And I have plans to study astrophysics next year. 14:48 marek I've founded Fedora astronomy SIG to increase astronomy support in Fedora. 14:48 marek I have a lot of projects in my head, but not much time, for that I need your valuable help. :) 14:48 marek Primary project should be Fedora Astronomy Live spin, which should be Fedora 9 live cd ready to use for any astronomer. 14:48 marek :) 14:48 marek Telimektar: can you introduce yourself please? 14:49 Telimektar Micha"el Ughetto, 20 years, France, Physics student, french translator, actually learning packaging, interested in simulation tools 14:50 marek ok thank you Telimektar 14:50 marek sergiopr: can you introduce yourself please? 14:50 sergiopr My name is Sergio Pascual, I work in the Astrophisics Departament, Madrid University 14:51 sergiopr I have a a Ph.D in Astrophysics and I'm interested in tools por the profesional astronomer 14:52 marek thank you :) 14:52 sergiopr And I'm studying software engeniering 14:52 sergiopr thats all 14:52 marek anyone else interested in Fedora Astronomy SIG? 14:53 marek ok, next topic 14:53 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy SIG -- Packages. Who can help? 14:53 marek I need help of developers packaging software from our wishlist https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy/Packages/Proposed 14:53 marek if you do, please cc fedora-astronomy-list on the review request or let me know 14:54 marek there are 48 packages waiting in proposed list 14:54 marek I guess at least half of it is old and unmaintained, so we need to clean up the list 14:55 marek sergiopr, Telimektar how many packages could you take from that list? 14:55 marek it's also ok to only make package and I will take full responsiblity of maintaining it 14:55 Telimektar i'm actually learning packaging and i'm awaiting for sponsor 14:55 marek just like did lkundrak (thanks to him) 14:56 sergiopr I don't have so much time ATM, but I'm working on an ESO-MIDAS package 14:56 marek Telimektar: oh nice, this is great occasion for you -- you can make packages that you can show to your sponsor after 14:56 marek Telimektar: I suggests you do to about 5 packages and about 5 review request and ask someone to sponsor you, if you will have hard to find someone let me know 14:57 marek sergiopr: ok, good -- can I add your named with ESO-MIDAS? 14:57 marek sergiopr: you already did ds9, which is very respectful =) 14:57 sergiopr It was a lot of work :) 14:58 marek I saw the rpm, very good work! 14:58 sergiopr I'm adding my name to eso midas in the package list 14:58 marek sergiopr: ok thank you 14:58 Telimektar If there's easy to package software, please tell me 14:58 marek Telimektar: check the list, I'm sure that there's something easy to do 14:59 marek Telimektar: but your sponsor will be looking at more difficult packages, to be sure you know how to package in right way :) 15:00 marek ok, if no other on-topic issues, let's move 15:00 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy SIG -- Should we use a specific artwork for the spin? Or only a wallpaper? 15:00 marek this is an interesting topic 15:01 marek later, I would like to ask our great art team to create a wallpaper for us along with a icon 15:01 marek as I would have a menu called "Astronomy" in the spin 15:01 Telimektar It's necessary I think 15:01 marek and also a little logo :) 15:02 marek Telimektar: I think too, it's a good marketing ;) 15:02 Telimektar to help people to see what's specific to this spin 15:02 Telimektar As wallpaper, i have noticed the work make on this page but was refused for F8 15:03 marek I was thinking about a photo of nebula or so 15:03 Telimektar http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F8theme-moon 15:03 marek Telimektar: yes, this is nice, but it's only a scratch 15:03 marek do we have a wallpaper of that? 15:03 G_ > [n=njones@wikipedia/NigelJ] joins #fedora-meeting 15:04 sergiopr very nice artwork 15:04 Telimektar it's only a mockup but i'm sur that the former designer will be happy to work on it 15:04 marek we will ask art team if they can include our wallpaper by default in Fedora 9 15:04 Telimektar ok 15:04 marek so we don't have to make separate package for that 15:04 marek Telimektar: ok, I will contact the designer to ask if he can send us the wallpaper 15:04 Telimektar so what's the work to be done on that point ? 15:05 marek I think it can wait months or two 15:05 marek the work is to, 15:05 marek 1) mail art team and kindly asking for an icon and a logo 15:06 marek 2) ask former designer if he likes to send us the wallpaper, if so let's ask art team to include the wallpaper in Fedora 9 15:06 Telimektar ok 15:06 Telimektar who can take it in charge ? 15:07 marek I can take care of it 15:07 Telimektar ok 15:07 marek I will mail the designer of that theme today 15:07 marek but I'll wait some time to contact art team 15:07 marek ok, next topic? 15:08 Telimektar y 15:08 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy SIG -- Scheduling the spin building. 15:08 marek my plan is: 15:09 marek 1) package as much as good software possible 15:09 marek 2) package astronomy-menu -- something like games-menu that will regroup all our applications under nice "Astronomy" menu 15:09 marek it's a simple xml file 15:09 marek 3) package astronomy-bookmarks -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy/Bookmarks 15:10 marek - we won't package art work, as the plan is to include it Fedora 9 default artwork package 15:10 marek 4) request project on fedorahosted.org, cvs using trac 15:11 marek there we can star working on the kickstart file that will become our live cd 15:11 Telimektar Is there any date to perform those steps ? 15:11 f13 fedorahosted doesn't support cvs 15:11 marek f13: svn then =) 15:12 f13 if you have to... 15:12 marek (I'm sure Jesse loves GIT) ;) 15:12 marek Telimektar: no not yet, I think the hard work is the point 1) 15:12 marek other can be done in few days 15:13 Telimektar ok 15:13 marek I would like to have everything ready by first of april 15:13 marek _and_ I will be working to have this spin for Fedora 10 too 15:13 marek there are a lot of things to improve 15:13 marek CCD support, telescope communication support 15:14 Telimektar upstream work would be welcome for moste of these software I think 15:14 marek Telimektar: exactly 15:14 marek and, I was in touch with scope vendor bresser, there is a possibility they include our Live CD with their scope for free 15:14 marek if everything's ok 15:15 Telimektar good job marek 15:15 marek but I plan this for Fedora 10, it will be too early for Fedora 9 15:15 marek also, webcam support! 15:15 marek I had in mind system-config-webcam :) 15:15 sergiopr cool 15:16 Telimektar lot of work in perspective 15:16 marek I'm pretty sure we will find other people to help us 15:16 marek for example sergio's students =) he can give it as homework for them ;) 15:16 marek (kidding) 15:17 sergiopr I'm afraid I don't have students :( 15:17 marek sergiopr: ok, so colleagues ;) 15:17 sergiopr Bur perhaps I can cheat my collegues' students :) 15:17 marek ok I feel like we are reaching the free discussion :) 15:18 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy SIG -- Free discussion, mindstorming 15:18 marek sergiopr: good idea ;) 15:18 marek next year I'm starting my studies of astrophysics at scientific university in Brno (sci.muni.cz) 15:18 marek so I could push something too 15:18 sergiopr marek, very good, I told it's never too late 15:18 Telimektar question : the spin will use kde or gnome ? 15:19 marek sergiopr: I took your word ;) 15:19 marek Telimektar: gnome I think, it's the easier way 15:19 marek I have no experiance with KDE 15:20 sergiopr How many GUI applications have we got? 15:20 marek https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy/Packages 15:20 marek for the moment I see only one console based 15:20 marek others (about 14?) are GUI 15:21 sergiopr And what widget library are they using? ds9, for example, is tcl, so I doesn't matter if the spin is gnome or kde-based 15:22 Telimektar i'm afraid of the use of too muche libs 15:22 Telimektar the RAM won't like ti 15:22 Telimektar it* 15:22 marek yes 15:22 marek I'm gnome user and I think for standard tasks it's ok 15:23 marek Telimektar, sergiopr do you prefere KDE? 15:23 sergiopr marek, I prefer gnome 15:23 Telimektar I'm a kde user but I do not care, I think we should choose performance 15:24 Telimektar and that a light environment like xfce can also be a good choice 15:25 marek I tried the Fedora live cd and gnome has been pretty fast on usb stick/1Ghz/256M ram 15:25 Telimektar personnaly it's the loading of skymap that's i'm afraid from 15:26 marek from my point of view, we should concentrate more on packages first and discuss this later 15:26 marek Telimektar: ok, we can do some test when everything is ready 15:26 Telimektar of course 15:26 marek and after choose the desktop env. 15:28 marek ok, so tasks: 15:28 marek marek -- find out more about that wallpaper from former author and contact ART team + standard packaging 15:29 marek Telimektar -- try to make few packages, so that you can get cvsextras, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy/Packages/Proposed 15:30 marek sergiopr -- if some free time, try to finish ESO-MIDAS 15:30 marek everybody -- collect some cool links for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy/Bookmarks 15:30 sergiopr I'm adding a few things right now 15:31 marek everybody -- packages! packages! packages! :) not only creating but also, try to find some other neat software that would be nice to have in Fedora 15:31 Telimektar ok 15:31 sergiopr ok 15:31 marek anything else you would like to discuss? 15:32 Telimektar has the fesco decided if spins are a feature ? 15:32 marek Telimektar: last time I've checked no 15:32 Telimektar ok 15:33 marek but I prefere to keep it as project, as future developement is pretty sure 15:33 marek so we can go on with Fedora 10, 11, 12 ... 46... :) 15:33 Telimektar and on and on 15:33 marek =) 15:34 Telimektar also can we use the #fedora-astronomy to discuss (when not in meeting ) 15:34 marek actually, I'm on ##astronomy channel 15:34 marek there are nice people there :) 15:35 Telimektar it's ok for me 15:35 sergiopr And for me also 15:35 marek ok good 15:36 marek so next meeting is fixed on Friday, January 11, 2008 at 14:00:00 UTC time 15:36 marek is it ok too? 15:36 Telimektar ok too 15:36 sergiopr Ok too 15:37 marek ok, thank you guys for coming and have a nice day! 15:37 Telimektar you too :) 15:37 sergiopr And a happy new year! :) 15:37 marek ;) 15:38 Telimektar with ful of free software 15:38 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel 15:38 sergiopr < [n=sergiopr@xxxxxxxxxxxx] quits ["Leaving."] 15:38 Telimektar < [n=Telimekt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] leaves #fedora-meeting ["Fedora Project wants YOU !"] 15:38 ivazquez < [n=ivazquez@fedora/ignacio] quits [Success] -- Marek Mahut https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy/ Fedora Project http://www.jamendo.com/
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