Hi Kevin, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Greetings. > > This will be a bit long, but I hope it will explain the current unfortunate state > of the mobility sig. > > First a bit of history. The mobility sig was originally formed back in 2010. > The goal then was “… a group of Fedora contributors that are interested in > Fedora on small devices. Initially aimed at supporting NetBooks, Mobile Internet devices” > A good deal of progress on small devices like netbooks and tablets was made, > but then the members of the SIG moved on to other concerns. Then, in 2020 the > most recent version of the SIG formed. The goal was focused on getting Fedora > working well on the new pine64 pinephone, and then later when announced the new > pine64 pinephone pro. > > In the last 3 years we have accomplished a lot: > > The phosh stack has been packaged up > We have been producing Fedora Remixes with 3rd party kernels to provide support > for pinephone and pinephone pro. > a Phosh spin has been created and officially produced > There was a effort to get a remix working for the oneplus 6, but > still requiring a lot of manual tweaking. > > Unfortunately, the active members of the sig are not able to move things forward right now. > The pinephone and pinephone pro are both old devices at this point. They were slow > when released, and thats not improved. Worse, upstreaming of patches to get either > of them working with a Fedora/Mainline kernel seems unlikely to us for a lot > of reasons, including that many of the 3rd party patches aren’t in a state that > upstream would accept and many authors of them have no particular desire to > upstream them. > > The phosh spin is largely not useful in the current situation as the > Fedora mainline kernel barely boots on the pinephone pro (not at all on the > pinephone) and has no wireless or display. The image could be of use to > other aarch64 single board style devices, but since they usually don’t have > displays or modems, the phosh interface isn’t of particular insterest. > > Until the advent of some performant mobile device to target or more > contributors who wish to drive things forward, I think we should just > mark the Mobility sig inactive at this point, including: > > Retire the Phosh spin in f40 > Hopefully find new maintainers for the phosh stack if there’s folks that want to keep them alive. > Mark the sig inactive on wiki and matrix. > respins will move to against a stable fedora release once a week or so, instead of against rawhide and more often. > > Hopefully there is someday a brighter day for Fedora mobile devices. > Folks that want to try and revive the SIG and/or are able to see a good > path forward are invited to join #mobility:fedoraproject.org. I'm sorry to hear that you bumped into so many issues with upstreaming patches and hence have to put the SIG into a dormant state. Nevertheless, I would like to thank you and all the contributors for your amazing work and congratulate you for what you accomplished! Let us hope for better days for a Linux powered cell phone :) Cheers, Dan -- _______________________________________________ arm mailing list -- arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to arm-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue