Re: Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

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W dniu 10.11.2015 o 15:57, Clive Messer pisze:
On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 09:17 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:

Basically the Raspberry Pi organisation has no urge to be a good
citizen in the open source community

I cannot believe you said that! At least put some context into that
sentence. They have "donated" considerable $$$$'s to various open
source projects!

And? How many of those changes were accepted and how many rejected as being ugly hacks?

I see people joining Linaro, being welcomed with open arms (pun???)
when they slap some money down on the table, gaining open source
"street cred" by doing so, but not being particularly open source
friendly. It's a stepping stone to appearing to be open source
friendly.....

Linaro has other way of working than Fedora (or Debian) has.

Fedora "officially" supporting, (out-of-the-box), SoC vendors who far
from being open source friendly, contribute very little to the open
source community and are guilty of GPL violations......

Fedora supports those SoC vendors which are present in mainline kernel. Good, bad ones does not matter as long as it boots because we do not judge them. We take what is present.

BCM2836 is not present in mainline kernel == not present in distributions. Never mind that it is present in thousands of boards.

On the other hand CPU present in ten boards (but present in mainline kernel) can get Fedora booting out of box without adding extra work for us.

The fact is, that the Pi Foundation is a good citizen in the open
source community. That they don't have an "upstream kernel first"
policy, doesn't make them a bad citizen in the open source community.
That is so unfair!

What's next? Are ARM Holdings PLC (or anyone who has purchased IP
from them) to be avoided at all costs because they refuse to open
source a MALI driver? LOL.

I can boot most of boards with MALI using only FOSS software and have them working with graphics. R/Pi does not even boot without closed blobs. You call it FOSS friendly?
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