On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Eric Smith <spacewar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> There's also hardware available but define "affordable"... at the >>> moment the first gen widely available hardware will set you back about >>> USD$ 3K >> >> Where can one get that? I don't want to spend $5-6K, which is all the >> prices I've seen, but $3K is nearly within my budget for development >> hardware. > > http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/corporate-information/events/arm So it turns out that AMD is not actually willing to sell these for $3K. They are willing to rent them out for two years for $2999, but the agreement requires that they be returned to AMD or destroyed (at AMD's option) at the conclusion of the two year term. The term can be extended by mutual agreement in two month increments, but AMD is under no obligation to do so. Perhaps $125/month rental (paid in advance for two years) is still worthwhile for some developers, but I'm not willing to do that. If I pay $3K for a system, I'm willing to agree to non-disclosure for up to two years, but not that I have to surrender posession in two years. Since production hardware should be available fairly soon (claimed 4Q2014, but I think 1H2015 is more believable), I'll wait and buy hardware that I can actually own. Eric _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm