-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El Wed, 08 Jan 2014 14:16:55 -0800 Brendan Conoboy <blc@xxxxxxxxxx> escribió: > Hi everybody, > > There are two significant issues with the disk images in F20 that I > would like to address in F21: > > 1. Duplicate disk images with and without a VFAT partition. This > doubles QA load and can confuse end users. I agree we need to drop the double images > 2. Unlike x86 spins, images aren't always ready to be used after > they're written to storage. Instead, uboot bits need to be copied > into place using a specific method. This is unintuitive and prone to > user error. This all needs to be wrapped in a tool to do the image customisation. we had a good start to it previously. We need someone interested to pick it up and run with it. the handling of setting up the card needs to happen for the user. I think I fixed the bug causing extlinux.conf to not be generated. I may need to build the fix. This is a great opportunity for someone to work on something. I think your ideas for images are inherently horrible and should not be persued. For one any content on the boot partition is not in the rpm database at all, two it would need for a whole new set of composing tools to be written. We would need to produce a massive list of image combinations to be used. the images we produce should work out of the box on any system that provides u-boot. however some vendors have horribly different setups in their on board u-boot binaries We do have an issue of sorts by installing bot the unified kernal and the LPAE kernel in the images. I would like to propose we drop the LPAE kernel, if you need it you need to do an anaconda install. I plan to do work so that we use MLO in raw space and make sure the MLO on omap understands ext4 to load u-boot.img from. then we drop the vfat images all together. we need work and effort spent on making it better. I think the only other viable option is to only produce a minimal image and have it pre-configured to work on a board. Which is basically what all other distros do. but even that will require a bit of work to do. We need to make it easier for the users. Id also like to have installer images for f21, something similar to boot.iso on x86. but even on many systems you need to setup something extra to have it boot. esentially this all boils down to a lack of standards for booting arm systems and vendors saving a few dollars by not putting onboard nand, spi, etc flashes that can be used to hold the u-boot. Dennis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSzuRCAAoJEH7ltONmPFDRrDEQAJKIWIDO1hifG801VYwUnKzl v5OSFg95GHG5MmSqcBUZCTC+RqXSIvm6fwKjHpgIu84A2RMtr6tJPaSs+ucyHdfj JTrW3dEVJSoUDeCr7B8q7iRxiCz6tyeKfybBhc1BlOFd1dYdc3dAthcpKYDCFTQo KnemX40qil5/D512t5UvxjPa7SFZqTJm4SRHMW8senKMMYifEKBtyHmiGuVlYfnz hNGXuEnYb695qz5fh/r5qgE3y3adAmg9KQuQ26XMCvlmN8odJOEMdoAUTewa/090 ZasH2xOCynEi/odO1qztH3eMDHVJNCjNErTzvZdQ3z3M1co2KXypnLt/+/jdLovd TKrkrPTwh6XAw1qiAnJjS5VbS1N/QxDZDn8Sa6S1PrzeJ7T74EwlOTG4iqhMliXh eVrpoJLh008jcrJ3UM6lLl+KWvZ3fO1Tl//rckT2FYRhyFCnzGI1h7OLy/iE7qXG Pn/GsapjImhPwtCGBp0AyCFop/66GsLzkbZd74tfcFjVud62kI/6wL+Trf/jwLqi MeCFL5iTxZwtdqhQmCjx/Xtq54VRTLDupNlOURdIWzWatCq0UDOc2ue+Nz6sigrE u8/IGI5cezO+K1UaDDJTC4uLG8ddvaVBvtrkurH3THH44izNbmU54LcH/+8/bUrK LzAMKDSRu+p+q8aE/qFZ =l0dr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm