On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 08:45:42PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >Hi Steve, Hi Peter, >> *Every* major distro working on ARM has implemented what was agreed by >> all of us in the conf call. Except Fedora. At this point, the message >> *seems* to be that Fedora developers just do not care about working >> with the rest of the community, and that's a real shame. Please, let's >> work together to get this fixed. > >There is no "except Fedora" here. To quote your own minutes [3] >"Fedora; they're planning to do it Real Soon Now." from the meeting, >I'm not sure what was said in the meeting regarding releases but this >was something I personally didn't want to ship 5 minutes before we put >a major release out. That said it will most definitely be in Fedora >18, some of it has already landed and the rest will be very soon and >quite possibly rolled back into F-17 once its been tested. There was urgency in the agreement - we all agreed that there should *not* be any distro releases of ARM hard-float using the wrong linker path. The Ubuntu developers managed to make the minor changes needed and QA them in 2 weeks before they released. Fedora are taking *much* longer to implement those same changes, which is really frustrating. >In all likely hood we'll support this in a stable release before both >Debian (I couldn't work out their next stable release date from their >site) and possible even OpenSUSE depending on if it makes the 12.2 >release. *Please* don't release F17/arm without the linker change. The main point of the cross-distro standardisation work is to fix the older fragmentation problems in the ARM Linux community. Releasing an incompatible and broken v7 hard-float distro will set that goal back a long way, and cause problems and confusion for users and developers. Cheers, -- Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM SoCs _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm