That is great news!!! I wasn't sure if raspberrypi was going to make it or not sounds like they are! :) Would ARMv5tel+vsp2 (VSPv2 is optionally part of armv5.) cover this? Just add VSPv2 to the current ARMv5tel mainline then a spin would be more trivial. This will also shake out bugs relative to just the vsp2 instructions which might make low level debugging easier. Or am I missing something? Quoting Chris Tyler <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > (Backstory for those unfamiliar with the Raspberry Pi board: The > Raspberry Pi Foundation was formed by a group of industry leaders in > Cambridge UK who believe that decreasing access to easily-programmable > hardware is contributing the decline of interest in CS/IT among young > people - compare the number of machines that booted to a programming > prompt in the 80's with the number that do today. Their solution is to > develop and sell a computer that's cheap enough and open enough that > youth, schools, hackers, makers, and so forth will use it widely. Their > first device is a $25/$35 ARM11-based computer). > > I've been working with a Raspberry Pi foundation > (http://raspberrypi.org) and would like to see us (Fedora ARM) provide > first-class support for their device. The foundation kindly supplied an > alpha board, and we (at Seneca) have got F13 running reasonably well. > There are still some significant hurdles -- for example, it has awesome > 1080p high-def streaming video and OpenGL performance, but X11 is still > painfully running on fbdev -- but these can be overcome, and I think > that this will be a useful and important device. > > The Pi has a really strong GPU and an ARM11 (armv6) processor on a > BCM2835 SOC. I anticipate that this device may sell into the millions of > units in the next two years, and having Fedora as one of the primary > operating systems will be beneficial both to the Pi users and to the > Fedora community. > > The firmware blob on the GPU side is closed-source, but that side of the > chip can be effectively treated as hardware; lobbing stuff (H.264, > OpenGL, ...) over to the GPU through a socket-style interface causes > stuff to happen. The kernel interface to the GPU side is open source. On > the ARM side, there are a few small userland pieces that aren't yet open > source, but hopefully will become so; therefore we'll initially need to > provide a Remix (rather than a Spin) for the Pi, and should aim to > switch this to a spin as soon as possible. > > The expected ship date for the Raspberry Pi is (early?) December > (initial 10k units). > > If this device ships in quantity -- and it looks like it will -- I think > we should at some point look at providing optimized armv6tel+vfp2 builds > of key packages to improve performance; a student here is checking to > see what level of performance benefits this could provide. > > My current focus is on trying to adapting the glamor X server to work > with the GPU, while a few other folk here work on optimizing other > pieces (boot, browser footprint, and so forth). We'll keep the list > apprised as this progresses. Jon Masters and I are working on getting > Red Hat and Seneca to fund the purchase of a few dozen boards from the > first production run to distribute within the Fedora community. > > (These are exciting times for ARM! - Raspberry Pi and BeagleBone > announcements on the low end, Calxeda and armv8 announcements on the > high end :-) > > -Chris > > _______________________________________________ > arm mailing list > arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm