On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 00:07 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Jon Masters <jcm@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 16:40 -0400, R P Herrold wrote: > >> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, Jon Masters wrote: > >> > >> > Oh, it can all be done :) I'm just curious what exists already. Perhaps > >> > Dennis can help fill in some gaps here. Also, I know of at least one > >> > script already I've pinged someone else about. > >> > >> umm -- in rpm-devel package, rpmgraph has been present for a > >> long, long time > > > > Thanks for the pointer. I actually didn't know about rpmgraph. I > > probably should have, and now I do :) This gives the kind of data I am > > looking for as a good starting point. I'd like to take all of the F15 > > packages and prepare some graphs to look at/discuss before Friday. In a > > perfect world, we'd have dependency data on packages so we can exclude > > non-bootstrap bits (functionality we don't need for bootstrap), but that > > data isn't available, so we'll have to cull the graph a little manually. > > > > One of the outcomes I would like to see from the ARM v7 bootstrap is > > better documentation on new arch bringup for Fedora, since this is > > unlikely the last time it'll happen in general. Graphing and determining > > necessary orderings for rebuilding the universe is part of it. I'm also > > curious what the mass-rebuild rel-eng efforts use to do ordering (not > > quite the same problem but they must use something for this, Dennis?). > > When I've asked about build ordering in the past I've got the response > in that there isn't any (not answering for dennis here) and they > basically build the core required bits and then set off the mass > rebuild. The scripts they've used in the past are in the host-eng trac > git so that should give you some more details. Well, my question is motivated by two things: 1). We need to solve these problems for Fedora ARM. We might decide to do a mass rebuild in the future if there's another new ABI at some point in the future, and we need a generic way to do this for F-15. 2). I look at what Debian are doing with multi-arch and bootstrapping and a little part of me feels embarrassed (caveat: it's not something we're as concerned about, which is why we haven't done this). I do think there's a lot of cool ideas out there we can learn from other distros. > I'm also interested in some other central tools and scripts that would > make it easier for secondary arches. It seems they all have useful > tools that aren't generally available. Some ideas I've had or seen > other secondary arches use are: <snip> Let's start documenting these. I'm a little tied up this weekend, but I assume you'll be on IRC on Monday? I'd like to at least brainstorm and dump out what we know before mid-week, so we've a chance to collate useful data together for Friday's first v7hl hackathon. Jon. _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
