On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 7:11 AM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: ... > What I'm more concerned about is that if you eliminate Fedora from any > meaningful server based development, you strip all the opportunities > for people to iterate on server-oriented changes before they go into > rhel-rawhide and push into CentOS Stream. You also essentially kneecap > any motivation for other things related to server environments to > iterate faster (such as language stacks that are heavily used for web > service software) because you've eliminated the major ability for that > to ship to users and contributors. It also further accelerates a trend > that I think we need to reverse where people consider Fedora > unacceptable for server roles. If anything, Fedora is a lot better at > being used for servers then it was five years ago. I've personally > *stopped* using CentOS for servers because Fedora has gotten so good > at it. Upgrades are a breeze and stuff generally works. When it > doesn't, it's fixable! That last part is key. With CentOS, it's not, > because it has to bounce back into Red Hat first. And Red Hat doesn't > really care about issues discovered by CentOS users, and there are no > "CentOS developers". > > > So, what this long email is actually saying is that I think it's an > interesting idea to bring the two projects together, but eliminating > aspects of Fedora in favor of CentOS is premature because CentOS has > not actually developed as a community project. Maybe it's worth > revisiting after six years of actual community development? I don't think Matthew suggested that we'd stop development of server technologies in Fedora. I think he was saying that we'd drop the "Fedora Server Edition" as a user-targeted deliverable. This is an important distinction. We'd instead focus on server technology development atop the container and Fedora Cloud Edition use-cases. _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
