On 01/29/2017 03:04 AM, Brian Exelbierd wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017, at 06:17 AM, Athos Ribeiro wrote: >> Look at other communities like Debian (that organized a very successful >> DebConf in Nicaragua in 2012) and OpenSUSE for reference. > > Can you provide more details on the these conferences and why you think > they were successes? This will help readers who are not as familiar > with the workings of these two communities. I do not know too much about openSUSE, but I can say a bit about Debian Conference. It's Debian developers' conference. It's taken place in a variety of places from around the world. They also have Mini-DebConfs which are local meetings organized by Debian project members to achieve similar objectives to those of the DebConf, but on a regional context. I share the feeling that excluding LATAM and APAC from the possible locations for Flock poses an unfair disadvantage for contributors from these regions to have an impact in the community, and jeopardizes the goals of the Fedora Project because very talented people are left out. Having Flock only in EMEA and NA does not necessarily mean it's cheaper overall. In fact, given the cost of life in many LATAM countries is significantly lower than in other developed countries, the costs of logistics (apart from travel costs, ie. venue, lodging…) are more favourable. And when it comes to travel grants, I think contributors who really need sponsorship to make it to the conference are very likely to come from LATAM and APAC, and those who can afford to travel are likely to come from NA and EMEA. I am very disappointed with the current situation of the premier Fedora events. Honestly it discourages me to participate in a project that segregates contributors and treats me like a second-class citizen who has to settle for a second-class conference. I do not have any objective metrics on DebConf12 Managua's success, but I can say that I am proud of the work that our local free software community in Nicaragua has put into this event and Software Freedom Day that has been awarded twice as best event worldwide (2007 and 2008). I am sure that their goal of Motivate the local community was achieved. Eduardo ¹ https://debconf.org/goals.shtml _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx