>>>>> "SJS" == Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> writes: SJS> While there will be cases of that, there is also a very real SJS> problem with the amount of time, the amount of good bandwidth that SJS> IRC seems to require over website and email moderation. I know this is nitpicky, and I apologize, but: I find that an odd statement given that IRC dates from the time before time and many web sites can be quite heavy. It should actually be very bandwidth-friendly. My client, in a large number of channels and with automatic whois and nick watching and all of that kind of thing running, sees occasional bursts of traffic in the tens of kilo_bits_ per second. Visiting a single ask.fp.o page generates more traffic than IRC does in ten minutes; it takes 50 https requests and nearly 2MB of data. Maybe there's a mobile or plain version I'm missing. IRC does require a bouncer, though, if your network is so bad that you lose connectivity constantly; otherwise the experience isn't so great and the network sees you come and go. The latter does tend to annoy some people, but I've always thought that those people should just hide join/part events and go on with life. And what I really don't understand is why the one poor person with the bad network who wanted to be involved but kicked out of some channels wasn't just offered a bouncer somewhere. I mean, there's a completely technical solution to that issue which doesn't involve any arguments or feeling-hurting or whatnot. (I'm assuming that didn't happen; if it did and that person refused then that's a different story.) IRC does require an enormous amount of _personal_ bandwidth though. And it's not just time, but also the capacity for absorbing stress. Since the conversations are real time, you don't generally have luxury of posting a well reasoned response at your leisure. I think that lack of reflection time, coupled with the GIFT (please don't make me expand that) makes IRC such an unpleasant place so much of the time. That said, #fedora-devel and many of the domain-specific channels like #fedora-kde or #fedora-kernel are pretty much always pleasant. There are many of us who are there and trying to help out when possible, but we just don't have the bandwidth for #fedora. I guess that doesn't really help anything, but if we (or, more properly, the domain-specific channel we're in) were pinged to see if we could drop into #fedora to ask a question, I'm sure some of us would at least try. - J< _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as a collaborative community.
