#57: Seeking Council feedback/input on draft third party software policy -------------------------+--------------------- Reporter: pfrields | Owner: Status: new | Priority: normal Component: General | Resolution: Keywords: workstation | -------------------------+--------------------- Comment (by uraeus): Replying to [comment:37 cwickert]: > Sorry for joining the discussion so late. Overall I'm happy with what I read, most importantly that people brought up the same concerns I share. > > I'm +1 on the first part of the statement that was already ratified in comment:34 and I definitely want opt-in. > > I don't care much how 'explicit' the graphical presentation of the opt- in is, this is up to the > UI designers. Including non-free apps may be suggested (e.g. ''"some results were excluded from > your search. Click here to show them"'') but not recommended. A simple confirmation of a default > is not enough, I want the user to actively do it. And we need a "More Info" link that explains > the background, e.g. why we believe in FLOSS. I can't help but feel that most of this discussion is done thinking of generic searches. I mean this kind of hiding can sorta work if people search for a term like 'games', but if a user searches for 'Steam' then hiding the search results like this comes of as annoying and stupid. > What I want most of all is that FLOSS is preferred over non-free software. Searching for Chrome > should return "Chromium" before "Chrome" if possible. Again I wonder if this is one of those things that works as a specific example, but quickly falls down in the general case. As mentioned just above, if we are talking a general search term like 'web browser' than sorting free first seems not unreasonable. And to some degree if people search for Chrome then prioritizing Chromium could maybe be justified although I am already feeling we are close to being annoying with such a move. And it also feels very Chrome specific, as the number of 'non-free' applications with a open source twin is a very small club. And of course returning for instance Web or Firefox on a 'Chrome' search is without a doubt crossing the line from trying to gently push people in the right direction to just being obnoxious. > This being said I'm happy with > > "The Council recognizes that allowing selected third-party non-free software to be installed is a valid experiment in advancing Fedora's mission. Non-free software may not be presented to the user without explicit user enablement in any Fedora Edition or Spin." > > but I think we need one more sentence for the issues mattdm raised in comment:35. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/57#comment:39> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as a collaborative community.
