On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 02:45:15PM -0400, Christian Schaller wrote: > Did we ever get a more authoritative answer on this thread to > what the incubator is meant to incubate? I don't think Matthew > ever directly responded to that. Seems people assume its > either for incubating Fedora related technologies, so for instance > the Fedora Media Writer could have been incubated there. > Or is is meant as a place to incubate future Fedora editions? I was not thinking of it as incubating Editions. In fact, potential future Editions are basically Spins, and almost certainly could be done through the existing framework. I was thinking more of things like COPR, which includes code and binaries which are not "only software provided by the official Fedora repositories" as described in our trademark guidelines.¹ It's incredibly valuable for us to provide services like that under the larger Fedora umbrella, but we don't really have trademark guidelines to match. Atomic is another example, or the next new thing to come along like it². This is much more radical than a Spin, requiring new release engineering infrastructure and tooling — and ideally, with the option of at least temporarily branching from software in the main repository. Currently, we primarily present the options of "do it all outside of Fedora" or "get everything perfect in release engineering before even starting", neither of which is good. Or, consider the efforts to reduce the dependency tree for the Fedora base. Some of this might involve invasive changes to dependencies in packages. I guess that could be done as a Remix, but since this work is actually directly interesting and important to the future of Fedora itself, it'd be cool to keep it closer to home. I saw the suggestion somewhere of a Fedora-based userspace specifically engineered to live *inside* containers, with no worry about this weird stuff like "booting" and "kernels" and "hardware". That too could be a Remix, but why send people that far away? Do these examples help? 1. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#New_combinations_of_unmodified_Fedora_software 2. Like maybe the first iterations of an ostree-based Fedora Workstation. Or maybe something even more radical. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as a collaborative community.
