I am sorry to use top posting, but feel awkward to start commenting bit here and there. I completely agree with Máirín. My feeling is that moving from Linux events where everybody has already engaged with their distro or project has been not that productive. There are few examples brought up to say that we in fact get new contributors at linux fest. To me only shows how little impact we have. I like how Matthew called these events as token events (I heard him saying that in Flock 2014). Events that Fedora should be present but not make a big investment. Looking to move out of the box, has been discussed since Marketing FAD in Raleigh 2010 and FUDCon Tempe 2011. Every collaborator that I speak to for about two minutes comes around the same conclusion. I think that we have been talking a lot about this, but have done too little to bring people on board from ambassadors and other people submitting ideas for participating in events. Convince them that they should look elsewhere to promote Fedora. This is where I think we (me included) have failed. This does not mean that Fedora should stop participating in events where it can enable upstream collaboration.That is not expanding user base or recruiting collaborators. So, as a flat organization, it is hard to get a message from one point to another. We need to really push this harder. New people becoming ambassadors have the ideas of what they have seen fedora done in the past, so they expect to do that. We need to tell them to move out of the box. So, if this is the way to go, we have to budget differently to enable people go to show fedora in other arenas outside our comfort zone. Neville On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 18:08 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Fwiw, I agree w this point too and hope we can have some more > strategy around events? I think this was part of the thinking Spot > had around our presence at SXSW - reaching out to an audience we > don't normally hit at the lug/linux cons. (Does that sound right?) > > First hand impression of being at the Fedora booth at SXSW is that > the vast majority of people we spoke with had little knowledge of > Fedora and were genuinely being introduced to both Fedora and floss > tools for the first time (we focused on designer-centric tools like > Inkscape, given the audience makeup.) > > ~m > > On October 13, 2015 5:12:47 PM EDT, Matthew Miller < > mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Not mentioned at the meeting, but a thing I'm concerned with and > > have > > mentioned before: having a Fedora presence at conferences is good, > > but > > is it the best use of Fedora money? Do we grow new users at Linux > > fests > > in the 21st century? What things could we do > _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/council-discuss The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as a collaborative community.