To me any definition of success needs to be tied to popular adoption of the products we make, any measure of success that doesn't take that into account becomes to me a version of congratulating yourself for having achieved freedom of speech by putting yourself in a situation where there is nobody around to listen to what you have to say. So if we for instance define long term success as having a 50%+ marketshare among our target audiences, then I think a per release success criteria would be that each product release sees a significant userbase bump. how we define significant and how we measure the growth is of course another question, but I am sure that if we agree that this is a good way to do it then I am sure we can find some indicators to use for measurement and decide on ambitious but realistic goal for each release. We should and can of course have other goals beyond this, like promoting freedom, but freedom like free speech, are only meaningful terms in a social context. Christian ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Boyer" <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:16:33 PM > Subject: What is success for Fedora? > > Something the Board has talked about recently is defining success for > Fedora. The project has often done this directly through our main > deliverable, which is shipping another Fedora release. We work hard > to create, test, and deliver a high quality Linux distribution. We > look at feedback and try and correct mistakes or oversights in the > next release. These are all fine things, and things that should > continue as we stride towards Fedora.next, but is that really defining > success for the project as a whole? Is Fedora simply a project to > create a Linux distribution, or is it something larger? > > Our Four Foundations speak to the bedrock that Fedora is built on and > provide guidance in decision making for specific instances. Yet we > seem to rarely stand back and evaluate how Fedora as a project is > doing. Are we achieving some manner of success in promoting those > Foundations? Should we be striving for that? Is it even measurable? > If so, how? > > The Board is starting this thread to have an earnest discussion around > what people see "success" being for the Fedora project. Hopefully the > Board members will chime in with their own thoughts soon, but we want > to get as many ideas around this as possible. Hopefully this > discussion will help the Board, and the community as a whole, gather > some insight as to where we think Fedora is, where it should be > heading, and what we should be doing to get it there. > > Thanks. > > josh > _______________________________________________ > board-discuss mailing list > board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss _______________________________________________ board-discuss mailing list board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss