-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Perhaps my understanding of the entire discussion (or at least the original discussion) is off but I feel that Fedora should be 'minimal installation' and then have the individual SIGs (or projects, depending on your definition) establish the rest. In that way Fedora really can be everything to everyone and success of anyone's idea is based on their ability to do work or find others to help them do that work. And when I say 'minimal' I mean the least amount of packages necessary to make Fedora boot. Everything else is gravy. We know that there are people that run Fedora on servers and don't need LibreOffice or even a GUI. That's fine. The Server SIG can build up what they need to make an excellent Fedora server OS and release a spin of that every release cycle. Same goes for desktop environments that may not need httpd on their box at install. Really we don't *need* to spend so much time on "what is our user base" simply because our user base is anyone that wants a highly flexible, open environment for getting stuff done. At no time do we have a bouncer at the door making sure that each piece of software is on a list before letting it in. As long as the package meets certain guidelines (mostly legal but also some technical standards) we let it in the door. That makes Fedora into whatever the user wants it to be. Trying to nail down what Fedora is just isn't going to work. IMO, we should be trying to make it easier to get the correct bits to the correct people at the correct time. Whether that is through spins or through a DVD that allows you to select various package collections to install at installation. We are never going to shut out any particular user just because they aren't our target audience. People can do what they want to with Fedora right now and they do. We just need to make sure that our minimum packages are solid, that our SIGs have the resources needed to make their pieces of the puzzle work, and encourage that people build Fedora the way they want it. Quite frankly, all this talk has me thinking that we're trying to run Fedora like a company. If we want our product to be X then we have to allocate people, money, and resources over there. Well, this isn't a company and we don't have control over what the people are going to work on. We need to let the people do their thing and support them through education initiatives, making sure that lines of communication are available, and to make sure we're one big group that is there to help each other out. Sorry for the disjointed comments above... I think I'll go have the cup of coffee now. - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJRfnSEAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvjAsL/0Kzcb8g3qd7TGRTOZDUkjyv J3KjUuosAoRa0E4u1SXyPhu1s5iP/NH9JszA9FNl2zjA5WxibIN285zrI2P/DaVv sD+ELEuhJfIHWyabBY8Ix16av61aqy78s1MER52xR9Hxqi3MSPTK8Mpcqk2nw+3Q +seuP2hbOnlpB6Qms/89j3Qdia+6qd0atdgPWXXxD4Sq0fEmjHptztpa8k3zY/OV a0pb7N9Ae6nR6UaVXTSM5iQTBeXOwOZqvtf24IeRQO1y8y6cYxhVxQWf0A2+mIFl axdxXyRVLamyjEo4c3TT2nT+eTCiF+RZOPDbzAaombHXjrJFEcNdDou3qVfsb14Q ydHcrCNJbuN9C1SdNmbOV+24UdfJwPMHcL7voW2+E4UxSXMMQWbWkOOlAa5vNS9D gA1r6YyrYjYnDMklHruT0/0YK3xvu5LV7oKggo+R1B4xAFJn2lDiUv5V6dMZIHGv awnyp64rlMCXc0bDQAfC2NwRUcbYonp5cyxPv3qP2w== =AW8x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
