Re: [APAC] The incomming Indonesian Community Conflict

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On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Kévin Raymond <shaiton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi there!

Summary:
We have received a request on the websites list[1] to change the link
in fedoracommunity.org (thereafter called "fc.o") from
"id.fedoracommunity.org" to "fedora.or.id".
After digging a bit, I found that the ID community have two "portals",
and that they are not working together.

With this email, I kindly ask either the board or the FAmSCo to come
back to us (infra AND websites) if any action has to be taken (about
the id.fc.o domain and/or the fc.o website).
As I've not signed for community management, I am not sure to follow
the whole story starting now :).

The story:
Back in November 2011, Arif Tri Waluyo have requested the id.fc.o
domain name, to point to his community portal. Once approved by the
board and done in the infra, he has sent to the Websites team a
request to add it on fc.o[2].
By that time, the website was really awesome, with a really nice them.
I remember having congratulated them.

Yesterday, we received a request from Yafiz Haris Nasution[3] to
change "id.fedoracommunity.org" to "fedora.or.id" in fc.o/apac without
anymore details. Because I would see this clever to change the id.fco
redirection I've asked for more details.
After a quick check, yesterday id.fc.o was redirected to an ugly
WordPress administration page.

My feeling now is that there is something not fair here. I've brought
Arif Tri Waluyo on the discussion and only him replied in public,
while Yafiz replied to me in private (I am going to share it soon, on
the original thread, as there is nothing that should be hidden).
I've also asked Yafiz about the fedora.or.id trademark agreement name,
without having a one line clear answer. Spot, could you please
approve?

Later yesterday, Arif Tri Waluyo asked the infra team to change the
id.fc.o redirection[4], which now points to an "Under maintenace :p"
website. I feel the hurry here. Arif, why did you need that? Couldn't
you have waited to have a working webpage on your server?
I need it because I wanted to build a forum and blog, and it can not be done if the domain has not been directed to the server. I actually do not move here alone, there are some friends Indonesia who are also holders of FAS. Actually I had also asked the opinion of the spot on this matter. Spot only give advice in general. To prove that I have no personal ambition in this regard. I'm waiting for an answer, what should I do now?

As explained yesterday on the amba mailing list, I really love the
Fedora Project for its community, therefore I would like to prevent
this conflict to go forward.
Shouldn't we have only one local portal in order to have a strong
local community? I strongly think so.

Moreover, I've asked recently in trans and websites list (I should
have probably asked on the amba as well)[5] every community to check
their entries.
There were no feedback. Assumed correct.


[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2012-May/019518.html
[2] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2011-November/019006.html
[3] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2012-May/019518.html
[4] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3272
[5] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2012-March/019367.html

Best Regards,

--
Kévin Raymond
(shaiton)
GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2

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