Idem John! completely agree! On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:03 PM, inode0 <inode0@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Today the Board decided that the Fedora 18 release naming process was >> already in progress and therefore we would continue to work with the current >> process for naming Fedora 18. However, we could change things for Fedora 19 >> and above. The question was how. >> >> Several of the Board members felt that the release names were valuable, at >> least one expressed the opinion that the current method of choosing release >> names was fun and one expressed synmpathy with getting rid of the release >> names. All pretty much agreed that they wanted to know whether there was >> an overwhelming feeling that release names should go, should not go, or >> just that the current system was broken. >> >> What we'd like to do is have a poll that runs at the same time as the >> Fedora 18 Release Name voting to determine whether to continue to have >> release names for Fedora 19+. The poll will be in the voting system and >> have three choices: >> >> * Get rid of release names >> * Keep release names with the present process >> * Keep release names but have the Board and community create new >> criteria/process for choosing them > > Sadly this doesn't give someone like me a very good way to express his > opinion on the matter. I don't much care whether the naming process > stays the same or changes, but I would like to not prevent the > hundreds of contributors who have fun participating in this process > from continuing to do so. I'm fine with those doing the work and those > participating in the process deciding such details rather than a > collection of the uninvolved (e.g., people like me voting randomly > between options that don't allow me to express my opinion clearly) > deciding for them. > >> The Board will use the results of this to decide whether to have a new >> release name for Fedora 19 and if so, whether the process will use the >> current criteria or we'll create a new one (for instance, mizmo's gathering >> of ideas for themes for release names). >> >> Two notes that the Board wanted to be clear about this proposal: >> >> 1) If the Board chooses to create a new process that will likely happen with >> the people who are doing the work to revamp the process rather than be >> put to another vote. > > Makes sense, those doing the work figure out the details. > >> 2) The Board wanted to make clear that this is a poll, not a binding vote >> An overwhelming vote will likely influence the Board to go along with >> a certain plan much more than a close vote where the Board members will >> feel that there isn't a single definite path being sought for by the >> community. > > Doesn't make so much sense. Likely by far the most common vote will be > apathy just like in every election we have with, well, almost everyone > abstaining. And I'm going to guess that most of the people who will > vote to do away with naming don't actually have to do any additional > work whether we have naming or not and in my opinion don't have > standing to make the decision about what other people choose to do. > Maybe some of them feel compelled to vote to prevent names they find > offensive and I suppose that counts as work. > > I'll find a way to vote for fun though and to support those doing the > work also doing the deciding. > > John > _______________________________________________ > advisory-board mailing list > advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
