On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:26:53AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Robert 'Bob' Jensen (bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: > > +1 > > > > Many of us have been suggesting this for years. How can we make it reality? > > The Board could always take a simple vote; they've been invested with that > sort of power.. > So it seems that among the respondents to this question on this list, the most popular option is to get rid of release names. There have been a few voices asking for either a defined small change to the process targetted specifically at analyzing names for potential offensiveness in a multicultural project, and a few voices that have asked for a larger change to the way names are decided upon (and I think that some of the "get rid of release names" would be okay with some subset of possible new ways a release name gets decided). The arguments for keeping some sort of release name are: * It gives the distro less of a "cold" feel to the press and potential new users of Fedora. An argument for continuing voting is: * It gives new contributors a feeling of belonging to the community of Fedora Contributors Some ideas for small change were: * Ask translators and ambassadors to review the potential names for offensive connotations. * Put an extra column on the wiki to specifically highlight that the release names should be vetted by the community for potential offensiveness. * Ask the Board specically to filter for potential offensiveness. * Define "potential offensivness" so that we know what we're looking for and what we're considering to small to worry about. The argument for dropping the release names altogether was that the reward they give to us is small compared to the costs of creating, vetting, and voting on them. The additionaly costs about doing an analysis of the connotations of potential release names was just a reminder that the present costs are not zero and that een small increases in cost may not be justified if the benefits are also small. As a Board member, I am leary of unilaterally removing anything that is seen as a power granted to the contributors (in this case, deciding on the release name via voting) but I think I agree with the argument that the benefits of the release name to the Fedora release product are small. I'd be interested in Rex's poll on the F18 release name vote to find out if there's a majority of (voting) contributors who would like the release name to simply go away. I'd also be interested if anyone that likes the release names was interested in making an alternate proposal for deciding on it that makes it higher value (marketing team decides; name the release after significant features of the release. Go with a single theme for names, etc). -Toshio
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