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#135: Connotations Problems with Beefy Miracle
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Reporter: rajesh | Owner: somebody
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Fedora Project | Resolution:
Keywords: Connotations, Fedora 17, Beefy | Blocked By:
Miracle |
Blocking: |
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Comment (by pbrobinson):
Replying to [comment:3 rajesh]:
> Replying to [comment:1 cwickert]:
> > Preface: I am a vegetarian myself, but I am a supporter of Beefy
Miracle. Beefy Miracle has a 10 year history in Red Hat and Fedora. It
first appeared in Red Hat Linux 7.3 which was released in May 2002 and I
think it's great that Fedora 17 marks the 10 anniversary of both RHL 7.3
(one of the best releases ever) and Beefy Miracle.
>
> If just simply a name, I have no such objection as well. Personally I
and my wfie are pure veg but my son of 10 yrs eats everything...I have no
objection what he should eat. Personal is personal. Again, I am just
pointing it out to understand the process of connotation analysis and why
we should add a process like this in our name selection process to make
the naming more acceptable. And here I insist that the whole points I am
raising here is nothing to do with just my personal belief system.
>
> >
> > Replying to [ticket:135 rajesh]:
> > > Beefy Miracle is having a huge negative cultural, social, and
political connotation with respect to India and several religions of India
and world.
> >
> > Fedora is an international, non-religious and non-political project.
The name "Beefy Miracle" was chosen by our contributors and I am afraid
that if we let our international community vote, we will always upset some
regions, ideologies, regions or just people, even if it is certainly not
our intention.
> >
>
> I know and I am also proud to be a Fedora user and contributor. I also
share same views about Fedora. But since it is an international project so
it has more responsibility associated with its freedom. Voting is good but
number can be the only game changer then it is a chance that one majority
community belonging to some special culture can come in a position that
can make them behave like an autocrats very unitentinally. So some checks
are required. Just imagine if we know that the xyz name is the popular
choice, but at the same time the xyz is having potential to be a
connotationaly wrong choice, then we can tell the voter that the name
might be good but unintentinally we can hurt some group, so why not choose
some different one. I believe that our community is having great openness
and they respect the diversity issue.
While it's not ideal naming for a number of regions of our community the
time to highlight this as an issue is during the call for names for the
release by putting a note against the proposed name, or at the very least
when it comes up to be voted upon. Ultimately if there was so many people
against it I wonder why those concerned didn't step in and vote against it
to ensure it wouldn't be a problem, or in the very least register their
concern once it was announced. Looking at the results [1] there's not that
much difference between the top two so I doubt it would have taken too
much effort to rally the those concerned with it that have valid FAS
accounts to vote Liege up and Beefy Miracle down so this would never have
been an issue. The results were announced in early October, that was over
4 months ago, while it's unfortunate it's also a long time to wait to
escalate this issue.
[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/results/relnamef17
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