On 03/23/2012 07:24 AM, seth vidal wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:14:36 -0400 (EDT)
Jaroslav Reznik<jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
there's ongoing discussion about the connotation analysis
of Fedora Project code names (so not only for Fedora itself
but other sub-projects too) started by Rajesh Ranjan (thanks
for ticket!).
It's a right time to get an input from community as there's
currently running Fedora 18 codename process [1].
As Rajesh posted to Fedora Board Track ticket, connotation is
"the emotional and imaginative association for a word, where
denotation is the strict dictionary meaning of a word."
Current process for selecting next code name is - community
members suggests the name, there's publicly accessible list for
everyone, then Board goes through the suggested names list to
remove the clear examples of names breaking the policy (yeah,
usually it's one search term in Google to find out the name has
to be ruled out, but that's Board deal ;-) and this list is
sent to Red Hat legal for proper legal review. Then the voting
is opened for everyone with valid FAS account and only names
that passed the process are allowed.
In Fedora we believe in freedom and openness, we don't have to
stick to the strict "corporate-like| rules but on the other hand we
should respect our community and we don't want to offend anyone
consciously.
Usually, we use the common sense to rule out offending stuff but
also we (and Board neither) don't have a degree in sociology,
politics, religion and our geek culture is also from the another
universe :).
As I already pointed out - the process is open. Anybody can step
into in the early phase of naming selection and comment the
potential problems. And I believe the Board members will think
about the concerns raised (at least me ;-).
So personally I'd like to avoid any strict rule/policy as it could
hurt our community, we don't have a proper set of skills to do
the full analysis during the Board turn and I really hope with help
provided by community we can avoid the naming problems in the
future - just we need your, community, input.
Any thoughts?
I think we should drop the naming process altogether.
For the following reasons:
1. the names do not serve any use
I disagree; the theming for our wallpaper, as well as a moderate amount
(though not always infused with ridiculous amounts of puns) of marketing
material, take inspiration from the release name.
2. the names are a waste of time and effort to administer the process
It's a waste of time if nobody sees benefit in having a name. See above
point.
3. no one remembers the names.
To be fair, people only remember the numbers because... well... we
learned how to count when we were young, in theory. :) But do people
look back and better remember the release where we did packagekit,
upstart, and firefox 3 as... "Oh yes, Fedora 9!" ... either? Probably not.
4. the names are potentially divisive.
I don't think we should set the precedent of dodging the ball on things
because they are potentially divisive. See: Core vs. extras, gnome 3,
systemd, THIS VERY EMAIL THREAD, :)
(Plz, no snarky comments on how much better off we'd be if only we had
dodged the ball on $X. :D)
Let's do away with naming releases altogether and side step this entire
issue.
Thanks,
-sv
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