On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 07:34:18AM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > On 02/15/2012 06:30 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 09:17:38AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:49:34 -0700, > >> Robyn Bergeron<rbergero@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>(That said, we have seen a dramatic drop in the number of FADs > >>>sponsored; I don't think this is necessarily a sign of anything > >>>concrete, except perhaps (a) people have forgotten that this > >>>resource exists, or (b) we have fewer people working on new projects > >>>or solving problems that they are excited about, and can produce > >>>results face-to-face more rapidly. I suspect the latter may be the > >>>case, and is certainly troubling, but is a topic not really for this > >>>email.) > >>My (possibly selective) memory is that Paul instigated a lot of the FADs > >>when he was FPL. Since his job change he has had to cut back his time and > >>probably isn't in a position to see the needs and push for setting up FADs > >>as much as he used to be able to. > >In one sense, Bruno's statement confused me, because I only recall > >helping to drive a handful of FADs when I was FPL. Then in another > >sense it made me feel happy someone thought I was doing a good job > >with those. At least I think that's what he meant, so thanks for the > >kind words Bruno! :-) > > > >But in truth, I recall most of the FADs during my FPL time being > >driven by other Fedora contributors. What I do recall doing is > >talking about FADs often, and when good ideas came up, suggesting to > >the key contributors involved that they should organize a FAD event > >once they had a plan for the work. > And much of the framework for "having a FAD" was actually set up by, > IIRC, yourself and Community Architecture - the documentation is > fairly comprehensive (although perhaps hard to find or know about > without people broadly advertising or suggesting it.) > > My first FAD... well, Fedora event, period -- was the Marketing FAD > we did in March, 2010. Mel Chua and I mostly drove the arrangement > of that, with Mel doing the pointing of, "Yes, you can," and > credit-carding, and myself doing agenda-driving with plenty of > encouragement from Paul and Mel. It was incredibly valuable, both > from a productivity as well as team-building/bonding experience -- > and I think that we, collectively, simply don't take enough > opportunities to do these, don't point it out as a resource to or > encourage it amongst others. > > >It does seem like there were more of them a couple years ago than > >perhaps there were in the last year. But unfortunately the last part > >of Bruno's statement is only too accurate; I definitely don't get the > >time for Fedora these days that I used to. However, since I didn't > >really drive many of the FADs personally I suspect > QUICK! Sentence-finishing FAD! (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Whoops, should have concluded "they don't block on me. ;-)" > I think I do want to amend my previous statement about quantity of > FADs a bit: We do continue to have FADs -- I think we are having > fewer of them that are focused on solving a particular problem, and > perhaps more of them that are oriented as "Mini-FUDCons." > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FADs#Past_FADs > > Not saying that that is a bad or good thing, just pointing out that > I previously spoke incorrectly. :) 2010: 15 2011: 10 2012: 9 (2 of them virtual) We certainly could have more, and I agree that solving a particular problem is usually the best motivator for having a successful one. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
