Máirín Duffy (duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: > On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 10:00 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > > The best way to NOT be a place of permission is to clearly state that > > contributors are enabled, how they are enabled, and what resources they > > have at their disposal, and make this place of information incredibly > > easy to understand, well-known, and obvious to newcomers. And ensure > > that the processes that back up the enablement are just as clear, or at > > least, not broken, and have clear owners. And ultimately, make sure that > > we are not a place simply of Institutional Memory and the Those Who Know > > How, Can. > > > > I think we, the Board, and the wider community, need to tune in the dial > > a little bit and focus on usability of our community. It's not just > > "joining the project" -- it's about thriving once you are in. > > > > Anyone know if we're allowed to have a Project Usability FAD? :) (That > > was a joke. Just to be clear.) > > > > Thoughts welcomed. (Note: THIS EMAIL IS NOT A DIRECTIVE, just long-winded.) > > AMEN. <initiatives snipped> These are all good initiatives. And yet, my only honest response right now is "sure, that sounds great, and I'd love to see it happen. But I don't have any time or resources to contribute to this." And I'm sure that I'm not the only one in this boat. I suspect that overall, as a project, it's the default attitude. - We don't want to intentionally discourage people, but we just can't help right now. So we unintentionally discourage everyone, because even though we tell them they're empowered, no one really wants to go it alone. Robyn touched on this - how to state what resources contributors have at their disposal. But we need to also *have those resources*. How do we create resources for contributors to have at their disposal? We tried this in FESCo with the Fedora Engineering Services effort - we'd have a place where people could file smaller development/packaging initiatives, and we'd try and match them to people who wanted to help out with that level of tasks. It has (for the most part) failed. Now, if we were a real government, we'd institute taxes, and each contributor would contribute 10% of their time and then we'd have a pool of resources available for community initiatives. But somehow, I don't think that would fly. Bill _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
