On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 18:31 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Hi, > > DuckDuckGo is an alternative to Google and Bing that, while not really > open source, uses open source components, donates 10% of their profits > to open source projects, and is of course built on free software: > > http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216390-open-source Personally I would be a bit hesitant. A few months ago the big news I was following was how anti-open source duck-duck-go was - several searched was straight out parallel to what bing returned. I've tried to use duck-duck-go a bit but haven't been too happy with it - that said, I rarely saw the anti-open source evidence myself - but I did see it posted on several sites that produced screendumps to document it: http://www.muktware.com/news/3012 http://digg.com/newsbar/Technology/are_duckduckgo_s_bing_ties_a_problem_for_linux_mint Hopefully this is not true but it did make me go cold on the idea of trying it as an alternative to my "trusted" google. > > So how does that make them different from say Google? Well, they are > extremely committed to user privacy and don't track users or otherwise > collect or retain personal information about them: > > https://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html > > I recently came across an article that mentioned LinuxMint now ships > with DuckDuckGo configured: > > http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1884 Yes - but this also caused a lot of ruckus because of the above issue (see above link from digg/pcworld). > I don't know if shipping with DuckDuckGo configured in our browsers by > default is a good idea or not, but it would be nice if we could ship > with it as an option. At least for Firefox, there's already a search > engine plugin written for it. Certainly their stances on user privacy > seem more in-line with our own. Does Fedora package the Firefox with search-engine setup that is different from that of the default out of mozilla? If so, while I am not a fan of DuckDuckGo, I think it should be included there. I don't think a partnership makes much sense though. > We've also fielded some criticism I think for using Google as the > start.fedoraproject.org search engine. DuckDuckGo might be a friendlier > alternative for start.fpo. > > Does this make sense? Would it be appropriate to file a ticket with > FESCO on including them by default and with the websites team to > consider using DDG for start.fpo? Or is it not enough benefit? > > I was interested in hearing folks weigh in here. While I love alternatives to google - I put being open-source friendly first. If DuckDuckGo turns out not to be anti-open source, just disregard me little rant. I just wanted to throw this into the mix. -- Best Regards Peter Larsen Wise words of the day: oh okay. my mistake. Yafcot:atj(*), mark * Yet another fool coming over this: according to joey -- mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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