Re: New trademark approval policy

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On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> > 
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_unmodified_Fedora_software
> > 
> > "It is permissible to use the Fedora Trademarks without prior permission 
> > in connection with the provision and sale of virtual images or appliance 
> > distributions pre-loaded with Fedora software, provided that..."
> > 
> > Fedora on EC2 complies with all of this. So I'm ... puzzled, I suppose, 
> > as to why I'm running around trying to have an "officially sanctioned" 
> > test day, some sort of signoff sheet, and blessing by release 
> > engineering, for an image that the SIG itself is entirely capable of 
> > creating in 5 minutes now, and obviously would test anyhow because 
> > people take pride in what they do, etc.
> 
> The concern is probably how the preloading is being done, and if we start offering it now, will we continue offering it in the future, and should it be a releng task to get them uploaded at the same time we do the rest of the release.

The preloading is being done using strictly tools that are already a part
of Fedora.  And, while the goal is to move the image generation to releng,
the reality is releng is using tools that the community cannot really use.
As a result, we will have to maintain this image process through all
releases anyway.  The cloud SIG will be maintaining the appliance spec in
the cloud-kickstarts git repo for all future releases.  As for the actual
generation/upload, we are down to less than an hour to get all of the
images up for each availability region, and only 5 minutes of that is
interactive time at the command line. 
I am all for migrating to a full releng run process, but don't think there
is any reason to block on it personally.  Migrate when it is ready and
tested.

Justin
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