I'll just say this - if you step back for a minute, is it really reasonable to expect that for any popular product, if anyone in the entire world can just jump in and add their two cents (and propose changes), that there *wouldn't* be controversy and heated discussion around defaults, parts of the interface, etc.? Flaming sucks, yes, but what matters the most ultimately is *are we making something compelling*. The process is a means to the end, in other words. That aside, can people working on parts of the OS like GNOME do better in communicating what's going on and interacting with users and developers? Of course. We could be doing a lot better. But the mailing list and IRC channel remain open and public, as they always have been. _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board