On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Jared K. Smith <jsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer > <sspreitzer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Dear board, >> Dear community, >> Dear public, >> >> My access to the ambassadors list has been removed by force without my >> knowledge or will. > > This is not acceptable to me. ÂI hope this was simply a case of > someone being a bit over-eager with the unsubscribe button, and not > done with malicious intent. ÂThat being said, I'm working with the > infrastructure team to see if we can figure out who was responsible. While I appreciate your desire to be accommodating, Jared, I find it ironic that coming so shortly on the heels of discussion about how to handle "poisonous people" , we're now bending over backwards to accommodate the very same in our midst. While I appreciate the desire of people to move on and seek other opportunities, there needs to be an understanding among those leaving that "moving on" means "moving on." When you quit, you *do* step down from your roles. When you're a member of a closed mailing list for a project, and you quit the project, you should be the one unsubscribing *yourself* and not leaving it up to someone else to handle *your* paperwork. To everyone else, moving on to this idea that "Red Hat OWNS Fedora," (from another, very very closely related "may as well be the same" thread) why is this a problem, true or not? Red Hat has been, and continues to be, the very embodiment of the Free software ideal. The software is Free, you make your money on integration and support. There is nothing evil about making money -- this is why we all (hopefully, at least) have jobs -- to put food on the table and roofs over our heads. Why put all your work into a project that's an outgrowth of a company's product (Red Hat Linux), then urinate on everyone as you walk out the door because you're upset that it's.. an outgrowth of a company's product? Do you have any idea where Linux would be without corporate sponsorship? It'd still be running on lots of computers, sure.. in people's basements. It'd not be the behemoth that it's become today. Why look the gift horse in the mouth? Is this written in anger? You betcha! I'm offended that someone -- great contributor or not -- can post this garbage, disparaging everyone who still happens to think Fedora is a pretty great idea, and then instead of simply being told "sorry to see you go, man, thanks and good luck," and otherwise allowed to "gracefully" depart, gets coddled to when he whines about having his access revoked *when he just quit*. At any rate, if you want to participate in a 100% community run, democratic meritocracy, there's one out there already. It's called Debian. You might want to check it out and take your rants with you. -- Chris _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
