On 11/08/2010 09:10 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Sandro "red" Mathys (red@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: >>> Is it really so hard to meet a deadline? And to obey it:? :/ >> >> So: >> >> 1) The deadline isn't on either of the Board or FESCo election pages >> 2) The deadline wasn't in the announcement to devel-announce >> 3) The deadline wasn't mentioned during the FESCo meeting where >> elections were discussed, either. Also most of last week was taken up by a Linux Plumbers Conference, and the week before was pretty busy inside RH for reasons that shouldn't be mentioned here. Also, I suspect mjg59 would be on this list as well, but probably lost track of it due to his wedding last Saturday. >> Now, all of these are issues that should have been noticed and fixed, >> but in essence, people would have either had to be on advisory-board, or >> manage to have gone to the main election page themselves. It's not >> exactly surprising that not everyone did that. > > Do these two sitting FESCo members not subscribe to the advisory-board > mailing list? I can't speak for Ajax, but I do subscribe, though I don't generally read the list unless somebody points out a thread that I should go read. >>From the email sent to the devel and devel-announce mailing lists it says: > >>> The entire election schedule, and other important information >>> for all nominees, is posted on the wiki's main Elections page, and the >>> specific nomination pages for the Board and FESCo: > >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections > > I think I could have managed to go to the main election page myself > with that large clue. I'm glad you've got so much free time that you can follow every link in every email whether or not it's obvious that there's a good reason to. It didn't occur to me that reading the general "Elections" page was going to be necessary. Even after reading it, the schedule doesn't make much /sense/. Why is the "Publish Questionnaire" date before the end of the nomination period? Also most of the time to answer them is as well. There's actually more time in the schedule devoted to publishing the questionnaire results than the minimum amount of time a candidate, following the schedule, has to answer it. Anyway, my point is that this schedule isn't really set up or published in a way conducive to having candidates actually follow it correctly - in fact given that "Organize/Schedule Town Halls" is on there, it doesn't appear to be designed for candidates at all. It's a schedule for somebody _running_ elections to follow. It shouldn't surprise anybody that the result is that people weren't aware of the deadline for submission. -- Peter _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board